Southwest Blasts Revised Slot Deal

[Skyboy722]

oh nevermind.

Then...why...post?

 

[mt2]

Fair enough, but first, we need to establish a price point....anybody got an idea what Delta and USAir paid for these slots in the first place???

The first set of slot rules was promulgated by the FAA in 1969. The rule, known as the High Density Rule (HDR) limited the number of landing and take-off slots available at LGA and other congested airports. (2) Under HDR, carriers then serving LGA were granted slots entitling them to operate at LGA. Subject to the FAA's "use or lose" regulations and other conditions, the slots thus granted became as a practical matter the property of the grantee airline...


I would be willing to bet that a fair number of those slots were original slots granted to these carriers way back in 1969. Of course many were bought or traded for too.

 

[RiddleEagle18]

The first set of slot rules was promulgated by the FAA in 1969. The rule, known as the High Density Rule (HDR) limited the number of landing and take-off slots available at LGA and other congested airports. (2) Under HDR, carriers then serving LGA were granted slots entitling them to operate at LGA. Subject to the FAA's "use or lose" regulations and other conditions, the slots thus granted became as a practical matter the property of the grantee airline....

that too....

 

[FlyinGuy]

They need to just give SWA the slots and back off....

 

[GuppyWN]

They need to just give SWA the slots and back off....

I just spewed my drink!

That was well played.

Gup

 

[Muskycat]

You guys would have NEVER gotten close to your current rates without a bump from the DL contract. Sure, you are profitable, but showing what the DL pilots made and the SWA profit potential left your manangement with no choice. Now, you need to keep yours where it is at now so the DL pilots can use that as a jumping point eventually, and then you guys will be back to square one---good pay but regional schedules compared to the better paying legacies.


You just don't get it General. Southwest's payrates were never based upon another airlines' plus a percentage. They are, and always have been, based upon what the company could afford.

Please don't take credit for the "DL Contract" - the United boys did all the real work to attain their contract in 2000. You guys merely attained UAL + 1 after your management witnessed the havoc the United pilots caused during the summer of 2000. This after US Airways attained UAL + 1. Unfortunately, it didn't work out well for those pilot groups.

We do not need to keep our rates where they are now so Delta can use them as a jumping point. Most SW pilots could care less how much you make. We will continue to negotiate a rate that will allow Southwest to be profitable which will assure that our paychecks keep arriving.

Not true about UAL doing all the work. They got their rate based on the Delta's 777 rate. Delta wanted 777's and came to DALPA for a rate. Long story short, UAL's contract was based off of Delta's 777's ($300+ at the time) rate which was applied across UAL's fleet.