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My thoughts exactly. Ouch.

Fits here, ole to the $35K freight dawg

That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not fly in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to fly with us.
He that outlives this night, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when MMIO, LRD, are nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of a life flown in aged out junk
He that shall live this night, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say To-morrow is Clear and a Million.
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say These wounds I had on my 3rd load.
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did those days. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Mar, huck, and Pcr, pilotyip, spooky 2 and con pilot,
Capo, j9, and all the Lear driving variants,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remembred.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And The day we flew shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of freight dawgs;
For he to-day that shares this godforsaken profession with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen on the ground now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us on Starving Pilot's pay.
 
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Fits here, ole to the $35K freight dawg

That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart; his passport shall be made,
And crowns for convoy put into his purse;
We would not fly in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to fly with us.
He that outlives this night, and comes safe home,
Will stand a tip-toe when MMIO, LRD, are nam'd,
And rouse him at the name of a life flown in aged out junk
He that shall live this night, and see old age,
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
And say To-morrow is Clear and a Million.
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say These wounds I had on my 3rd load.
Old men forget; yet all shall be forgot,
But he'll remember, with advantages,
What feats he did those days. Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words-
Mar, huck, and Pcr, pilotyip, spooky 2 and con pilot,
Capo, j9, and all the Lear driving variants,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remembred.
This story shall the good man teach his son;
And The day we flew shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of freight dawgs;
For he to-day that shares this godforsaken profession with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen on the ground now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us on Starving Pilot's pay.

Does single pilot in EMB 110 fit the profile?:p
 
Welcome, you are my brother

Thank you.

Couldn't have done it without a sturdy J bar and the rollers a Kalitta rampie at KYIP "forgot" one time when we got done loading.

Customs was always a thrill at KYIP.

Got chewed out one night because I had the air stair door open before the guy got to the circle. A month later I got chewed out by the same guy because I sat in the closed airplane instead of coming up to his office on the fourth floor in the FBO building, thereby forcing him to drive out to the circle.
 
Thank you.

Couldn't have done it without a sturdy J bar and the rollers a Kalitta rampie at KYIP "forgot" one time when we got done loading.

Customs was always a thrill at KYIP.

Got chewed out one night because I had the air stair door open before the guy got to the circle. A month later I got chewed out by the same guy because I sat in the closed airplane instead of coming up to his office on the fourth floor in the FBO building, thereby forcing him to drive out to the circle.
Yea they have to log a chewing out every hour, they make up reasons.

When dealing with customs guys, I pretend I am again going through POW training, no jokes, no information beyond the question asked, cooperate to the maximum extent possible. In a third world country, give?em a six pack of Coke and thank them for coming out to see you. I had a Canadian Customs gal, pull her gun on me, for what she thought was a smart-ass answer.

Having cleared many times flying the on-demand cargo I have found that customs guys come from three areas, immigration, commerce, and agriculture. You can tell where they come by their first question, Immigration ?Let me see your passport?, commerce ?Let me see your load manifest?, and agriculture ?Do you have any garbage??
 
$35K a year?! I made that much working on a garbage truck and/or flying heavies in the military. Both are about the same in pay, respect and working conditions.

There is something to be said for honorable poverty, but it ain't my cup of tea. I wouldn't whizz on a camp fire for $35K a year, long live corporate Gulfstreams!
 
$35K a year?! I made that much working on a garbage truck and/or flying heavies in the military. Both are about the same in pay, respect and working conditions.

There is something to be said for honorable poverty, but it ain't my cup of tea. I wouldn't whizz on a camp fire for $35K a year, long live corporate Gulfstreams!
Hey, it is an entry level job flying rudder dog sh1t to dark Mexican Cities in the middle of the night. But it is ME TJ time and it leads to jobs at FedEx, UPS, DAL, AAL, NJ, JB, Spirit, Boeing Corporation, etc.

You got to start someplace and pay your dues. But you have to be careful cause if you stay here too long , you start making 6 figures with 180 days off a year and you can not take the pay cut for your next job. So enter at your own risk.

If I was between jobs again, I would jump on it, because it takes a flying job to get a flying job. You stay out of the cockpit too long and prospective employers start thinking, "If you are a pilot how come you are not flying".
 
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