When will it turn around?

[Freight Dog]

Re: It's going to be slow for a while....

By the way, if we have another "9-11
type" aviation type attack, so much of
the public will stop flying that Southwest
and Jet Blue will be running B-737 ETOPS
on international legs.

(I hope I'm wrong)

On the light side, Aloha is already flying B737 ETOPS.

 

[flx757]

But I doubt that jetBlue will

Just don't see those B-737s in their future.

 

[sparticusflt]

Call Kit Darby at 1-900-SCR*WME...For $64,000 he'll give the complete answer.

Tailwinds...

Funny stuff g159. Had me rolling.

Sparky

 

[racerX]

4 years, 7 months, 14 days, 6 hours and 24 minutes....From next Tuesday. That's if your name starts with an "R", If not, add 3 more days. That's when it will turn around...yea...I think that's it.

 

[llowwelll]

For what it's worth. found this today and thought it related a bit to this thread: http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/blankley.htm. Basically, an editorialist at the Washington Times gives his predictions for 2003. His opinion probably isn't worth more than anyone else's but is kind of interesting to read. Among other things, he thinks that the markets will continue to drop during 2003 until beginning a sharp turnaround toward the end of the year.

Just tried that link and it didn't work for me...so here's the full text:

First , the good news: A year from now civilization will still be intact and most Americans correctly will be looking forward to a very good 2004, in which the economy will be growing, President Bush will be admired through much of the world and his re-election will be almost certain. But, before the cheering must come the struggle. So follows the not completely cheerful predictions for 2003.
• Washington politics will start out pitting the White House against congressional Republicans in a sometimes vituperative fight over federal spending. This will actually be a three-sided fight between the White House and conservative back-bench deficit-hawk Republicans , the appropriators and the Republican congressional leadership. The White House/conservative team will demand spending limits that can't pass either the House or the Senate. The appropriators will be called rude names by conservatives. The leadership will try to take over from the appropriators, but will fail to get the low White House spending numbers passed. The Democrats will sit on the side lines and giggle. Ultimately, events will force spending far in excess of the early White House demands.
• Deficit spending in fiscal year 2003-04 will top $300 billion. This will be the product of both higher defense and domestic spending and lower federal revenues due to a sputtering economy.
• The still overpriced stock markets, facing low corporate profits, flagging consumer demand and some interruptions in world trade will drop about another 10 to 15 percent by the end of the year. Extreme volatility will make matters seem worse than they are.
• The dollar will drop about 10 percent in value against the Euro, as our trade deficit continues to balloon.
• Saddam Hussein and his Baath Party will be out of power in Iraq by the springtime. Our occupation of Iraq will be managed without any tragic incidents.
• The fall of Saddam will trigger uprisings in at least two Middle East countries — one such government will fall to a fundamentalist/jihadist regime, the other to a more or less pro-western, moderate, democratically inclined government.
• The flow of oil temporarily will be slowed or stopped by these events. There will be a furious debate within the Bush administration and in Congress over whether to militarily intervene to secure the disrupted oil flows. Bush will decide to act. After an initially embarrassing series of U.S. military snafus and native sabotaging of the oil fields, order will be regained and by the winter oil will be flowing at record levels and the price of oil will settle at between $15 and $20 a barrel (after taking a wild ride to briefly over $100 on the spot market.)
• There will be two major, but not catastrophic, terrorist attacks. One either will be in Europe or at sea. The other will be in the United States. It will be obvious to the public that the federal emergency response to the attack in the United States was poorly conceived and carried-out.
• After the immediate shock and clean up, several Democratic Party leaders will badly misjudge the politics of those events. Democratic presidential aspirants will fall in to a contest to see who can criticize President Bush more harshly. By over-playing their hand, the Democratic leaders will lose the public. The public will rally to the President, despite the administrative failure surrounding the terrorist attack.
• Hillary Clinton, who will have kept her head down through the post-attack politics, will step forward to salvage the Democratic Party from its self-inflicted damage. She will explain that based on her 8 years in the White House, she understands the terrible challenges a President faces. Whether she runs for president or not, she will establish herself as the natural leader of the Democratic Party. With the exception of Senator Lieberman, most of the other Democratic leaders will have permanently marginalized themselves by mismanaging the politics of terror.
• Thanksgiving 2003 long will be remembered as a highly emotional coming together of the country, after which an explosion of optimism will create the most profitable Christmas shopping season on record.
• That will be the turnaround moment for the U.S. economy. A December 1000-point run up of the Dow Jones average on the New York Stock Exchange will trigger the beginning of the boom of 2004.
• North Korea will have gone back to sleep after a fitful springtime.
• After a not-so-private call by Republican Party elders to take Dick Cheney off the ticket (in order to groom an heir apparent for 2008), President Bush will successfully convince them that Mr. Cheney must remain on the ticket — for the good of the country.


Tony Blankley is editorial page editor of The Washington Times. His syndicated column appears on Wednesdays. E-mail: [email protected].

 

[redsoxfan]

I hope it turns around sooner than later like everyone, but when it does it will be very, very competitive to get hired at the majors!!!!!!!!!!! I can see a large number of military pilots going 1st like 75% vs. 25% civilian, like in the mid 90's when that hiring boom started. There will be 1,000's of military pilots who will be more than ready to go to the majors when that window opens agian.

 

[pilotyip]

Auto Industry

The auto people are saying not until 2005 will they return to their previous levels, and as goes the auto industry so goes the country. There is no time in the last 50 years where the economy has been strong without a strong auto industry. When an auto worker gets a $7,000 annual bonus, he takes his family to Fla on an airplane, when they don't get the bonus they drive. There will no serious major hiring until 2007, the major will downsize and concentrate on thier money making routes, and farm the marginal markets out to the regionals. With all of the laid off pilots taking those jobs, there will be very little input from outside.