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Todd O not gonna be feeling any LUV anytime soon.

80. On the pilot web forum, read by hundreds of AirTran pilots, Ortscheid wrote, inexplicably, "There isn't the slightest chance in hell that an arbitrator would award anything less than date of hire." He also wrote, "Not going to arbitration is crazy."

WTF?
 
Dude we all felt that way. We just wanted the whole thing to go straight to arbitration, to try to get the best possible seniority possible. Water under the bridge. You can't fault our union people for trying to get us the best possible seniority. Should the first deal been put out to a vote. In retrospect yes. But only because we now realize how likely it would have been not to pass on your side.
 
80. On the pilot web forum, read by hundreds of AirTran pilots, Ortscheid wrote, inexplicably, "There isn't the slightest chance in hell that an arbitrator would award anything less than date of hire." He also wrote, "Not going to arbitration is crazy."

WTF?

Don't single out Todd. I'm pretty sure we all felt the same way, at one point, on the AT side. Why are you quoting things off of a private forum you have zero rights of access to anyway? How many pprune quotes end up on here from AT guys?
 
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On e SWAPA side there weren't public discussions on the forum. Many of the discussions that could be quoted could be out of context from a date timeline. Try to keep that in mind quotes can always be misused. As for what is going on here at flightinfo we are just discussing the topic not conducting the discovery process.
 
. Why are you quoting things off of a private forum you have zero rights of access to anyway? How many pprune quotes end up on here from AT guys?
Not just a quote from a private forum now. It is now filed in a public legal document. That is why the #80 is at the beginning of the quote. Take it up with your own guys. Haha!
 
The more you talk to AT folks ( in person), the more you will see how the different offers affected our folks differently. The only constant was getting a decent SLI. When it became apparent (at much too late a time) that wasn't going to happen. A giant cluster f@*k ensued. People demanding to no about this threat and that threat. When where these threats known. The LEC offers were getting it hard from both ends, from the don't back down crowd and the Vote yes crowd. The logic was if you wanted the deal to be out for a vote, you obviously were going to vote yes, and you earned the colorful praise of being a "surrender monkey". Something that should have been celebrated "bought by SWA", turned into the nastiest bit of infighting at AirTran since 1996 or so. If I was a SWA guy, I wouldn't poke too hard into that bit of family business. Just say welcome aboard and help us put this past us.
 
Their attorney is Michael Haber. The same attorney that the RJDC wankers used. Knowing that, all of the lies, misrepresentations, misspellings, bad grammar, and everything else makes perfect sense.

Actually, these guys are filing as pro se or acting as their own attorneys. This makes more sense for the crudeness of the complaint.

Popcorn?
 
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