Part 91 Mandatory Retirement

gutshotdraw

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Hmmmmmmmm.



http://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/fifth-circuit-rules-for-exxonmobil-endi-17295/

Ironically, the same people in my shop who pound the table the hardest for "one level of safety" when demanding we adhere to Part 121 rest rules (ie: 117), will also be the loudest ones decrying this decision as "age discrimination."

Pick one set of rules folks. You can't have it both ways.




As an aside, I still have a 15 year old new hire manual that says "the mandatory retirement age for Executive Jet shall be 65..."
 

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It's coming to a fractional near you. This has basically given them the ammo they need to end the careers of guys approaching 80....

I hope those in fractionals now understand they won't be able to fly until they die. Need to get your salaries and retirements up and on par with the true "industry standards"....
 

Dingo221

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Enough
With the fantastic 401K contribution plan from Flight Options ( 0% matching ) some of us might have to work a few more years.
 

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FAA says it is a safety thing, and now the courts rule that it is a safety thing based on FAA research and opinion.

At "Blah Blah Blah", safety comes first. It is one of our core principles. Which one is it???
 

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The last one... Profit profit profit. And as long as it does not affect profit. Then safety
 

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NetJets, the largest fractional, has an excellent safety record. Perhaps the experience level of NetJets' many 60+ year olds is a positive safety factor. Flying fatigued, no matter what your age, is obviously a negative.
 

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NetJets, the largest fractional, has an excellent safety record. Perhaps the experience level of NetJets' many 60+ year olds is a positive safety factor. Flying fatigued, no matter what your age, is obviously a negative.
Maybe the safety thing is due to the defibs being mandatory equipment?
 

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We need something like this at the frax.

I hear one fractional is actually encouraging a few of these dinosaurs to retire. All in their mid 70s

They don't realize that they're not good at this anymore. And they're selfish pricks
 

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NetJets, the largest fractional, has an excellent safety record. Perhaps the experience level of NetJets' many 60+ year olds is a positive safety factor. Flying fatigued, no matter what your age, is obviously a negative.
It's easy to say you are the largest fractional when there are only 2
 

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New mandatory retirement age:

Part 121 and 135 = Age 65
Part 91 = Age 70

This is followed in eastern countries +/-!
 

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This is all good news-- that should be good for another several hundred recalls overnight to replace the (long overdue) outgoing gummers.
 

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Somehow I think if SCOTUS gets ahold of this one, mandatory retirement age across the board will evaporate. No clue what makes me think this, just gut.
 

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Somehow I think if SCOTUS gets ahold of this one, mandatory retirement age across the board will evaporate. No clue what makes me think this, just gut.

Yup.

However, the Aeromedical branch of the FAA could/should begin enforcing certain existing standards (oh, like vision and hearing) that could effectively cull the herd. There's also motor skills and memory tests that could be applied as screening tools with the same effect.

Of course, when your AME is 80 years old and looks at your retinas 3 times in the same exam because he has no short term memory - maybe this is an indication that the whole medical certification process is fubar'd.
 

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Yup.


Of course, when your AME is 80 years old and looks at your retinas 3 times in the same exam because he has no short term memory - maybe this is an indication that the whole medical certification process is fubar'd.
:laugh: I think I go to the same AME
 

gutshotdraw

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Wait, your AME actually looks at your eyes?
:D
 

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We need something like this at the frax.

I hear one fractional is actually encouraging a few of these dinosaurs to retire. All in their mid 70s

They don't realize that they're not good at this anymore. And they're selfish pricks
If you are capable of a little introspection, you may realize that you are the "selfish" one.
 

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I am good with 70... For myself. But I don't think it's any of my business what someone else does.
+1

Need to make up for the "expulsion" during the prime saving years.
 

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If you are capable of a little introspection, you may realize that you are the "selfish" one.
In numerous cases it's more of a matter of self-preservation.
 
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