I got the job!!! I got the job!!!

La Rue

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Yeeeehawwwwwwwww!!!

Oh man I’m on cloud nine… uh, no better make that around cloud 12 or so!

Just returned from Texas and I got a corporate job flying for an Investment firm/ venture capital group, they operate a pair of Lear 60’s at present and have a piece of a EJA G-IV.

Man its gonna be a great job! But I must confess and thank someone publicly, my father! For if it were not for him, I would have never had a chance, he hand carried my resume to the CEO himself. My father’s law firm has done loads of legal work for this company and he is on a first name basis with darn near everyone on the board!

Proof solid, its not what you know its who you know in the corporate world, although I do consider myself a great pilot. :)

THANKS DAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D


Now on to the job morsels! They fly worldwide; they currently have 9 full timers and average 15 days a month, (about 50 to 60 hours average but 70 to 80 flight hours are not uncommon according to the Chief Pilot because the owners believe in face to face business contacts). They reposition a good bit via the airlines and average 5 to 7 RON’s per month. Pay is above industry standards, with company 401K and optional stock plans, full health and dental as well as the ability to schedule hard time off with as little as 5 days notice. They do require an 18-month contract, but I don’t care! This may very well become a long term home for me! They are going to help me relocate with $2,500.00 moving assistance and have offered to place me in a hotel for up to two weeks until I can secure an apartment.

The company has the backing for some very big guns in the business arena and the Chief Pilot has been with the same man, flying privately for him at first then moving into his current position for nearly 30 year!

They are in the process of fleet upgrading, they have a written policy to replace aircraft every 10 years at maximum and they reevaluate their equipment needs every 5 years. They train only through Flight Safety and Simuflite Int’l and recurrent is on a bi yearly basis even though they are part 91.

According to the guys I talked to I’m leaping aboard at a wonderful time. The two Lear 60’s are being replaced within 12 to 24 months and the fleet will be expanding to meet the mission requirements of a schedule that is roughly 50% domestic 50% International. One is up for sale at present and the company has a firm delivery slot on a Citation X and will take delivery late this summer. The other Lear, is scheduled to be sold once they can determine if they want to buy another Citation X, or replace it with a smaller jet such as an Excel for some of the company’s shorter hops. On the long haul front, the company will keep the share of the G-IV for trip augmentation and emergencies and will be buying its own long haul jet as soon as they can locate one they like. They are looking at a used G-IV or G-V or maybe even a Global Express if one can be found for a good price and other jets are being considered as well but they have ruled out a BBJ as being just too much jet for them physically.

I’m outta my current job effective immediately and myself and the other guy who was hired along with me will b jumping into company ground school Monday! They will type us on the Lear as soon as possible, because some of the countries they fly to require that both pilots be typed. So I guess over the next 12 to 24 months I’ll be flying at least two different types of jets and getting my hands on some really cool toys to boot!

To everyone out there still looking, man keep your chin up, network and make as may contacts as you can and don’t give up!

I’m living proof you will succeed!

I’m off to pack, turn in my keys and make a run for the border, well the Texas border at least. See you gents later!


James
 

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I am happy for anyone who can land a good job like that. However it upsets me that this is how companies staff their flight line.
Just curious, did you apply for that job? If not, then you cannot blame the company for selecting the best APPLICANT they felt was qualified for the position.

Like the Lottery people say, "You can't win if you don't play" !
 

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Nice work, enjoy!

Have a great time, study hard and you will love flying jets. Don't let that other negative guy get you down. Sounds like a great place. Good luck!
 

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Congratulations! It's always been my observation that the bigger more advanced the airplane, the easier it is to fly. Have fun!
 

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La Rue:

Nice going La Rue! Congratulations! It sounds like you are off on a great adventure. I still remember my first jet job. My face hurt from smiling for about a year.

Good luck!!
 

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Congrats on the job!

You have to be as excited I have ever heard someone be over a flying job! good for you!

Just an idea -- if your dad pulled strings to get you the job you may just want to keep that to yourself once you get there!! others may have worked much harder to get there....just an idea....you will have lots less to prove, right??

About the negative post from the guy with 17 million hours in lears who walked to school 45 miles uphill in blizzards and then landed in 125kt xwinds and sleet on icy runways at KMDW after a 72 hour run around the world picking up freight and organs, single pilot .......
NEVERMIND THIS GUY!! Learjets are NOT hard to fly, just know thier limitations and stay sharp. Remember, Its just an airplane!!! Guys who hang out in Learjets for too many years think they are the best thing in the world...they can be a strange breed...Its a good plane to learn in, get some experience, and MOVE on to the bigger stuff where the real fun is!

Congrats on the new job!
Have fun.
 

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La Rue,

Congrads and good for you. However, if I got an opportunity like that, I probably wouldn't mention it on an open mike like this, even though I would be just as happy about it as you. AND! I certainly wouldn't turn it down because some pissed off guy with 17 million hours in Lears thinks its unfair.

Enjoy it my man!
 

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I've had friends and/or family help me get every job I ever had, starting with my uncle's store when I was 16.

There's no such thing as a "self-made man," folks. We all owe our careers to somebody's help, somewhere down the line.

Have fun at the new job!
 

La Rue

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Hey guys,

Thanks for the kinds words and encouragement, even you dj2000 I do appreciate what you in so many words are saying.

Just returned from saying bye to my current now former employer and he was to say the least happy for me, even though I was not able to give him any appreciable notice I could work out.

But, as he said, I’m not the first person who had to leave for another job with no notice and he’s sure I won’t be his last either.

I’ve got the books the company gave me on the Lear 60 and I’m going to be reading into the wee hours of the morning. Then I’ve got to go and pilfer (Ermmmm, I mean appropriate) some boxes from the local Publix to pack up all my trash to move.

Again, guys thanks for the kind words.

James
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Congratulations La Rue and welcome to the Corporate World... I think you will love it!

The Lear is a great first jet.... makes everything else feel easy to fly...

Again, congrats!

Falcon Capt.
 

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Congratulations

La Rue,

Congratulations, looks like a great opportunity for you. As you can probably tell, there are pilots out there that wish it could have happened to them when they needed a break. Don't let it bother you. Just concentrate on what you have to do.

One of the other posts echoed my first impression of your gratitude... keep it quiet. You definitely don't want your fellow pilots thinking you don't deserve to be there. Also, stay focused and keep yourself on personal probation for a while. The last thing you need is to make a few mistakes that drain your confidence. Just keep a professional attitude, be a good communicator, and stay well ahead of the airplane.

Good luck,
 

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I agree 100% with CL60.... Be happy, but keep yourself in check... you don't want to be known as the guy who got the job because your dad knows the CEO... If you can help it, don't even let that fact out, ever! You are there, become one of the team, sit back and learn how the operation is run (don't come in trying to change the world)

Otherwise stay focused, learn the plane as well as you can and be a good communicator... you will do fine!

oh yeah, most importantly... HAVE FUN AND BE SAFE!

Falcon Capt.
 

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You are a moron

Lets recap.

You are essentially unqualified compared to many of the guys on the street with 2-10 times your hours.

You have no jet experience yet was hired over many qualified pilots with thousands of hours.

You have no jet time.

You went to your current employer and showed what you are made of by giving him NO notice and quitting immediately.
Incredibly, it appears he was actually nice to you about it.

You then came on this board to brag about how you secured a job you are completely unqualified to have by getting your lawyer daddy to pull some strings for you. Rubbing others noses in the fact that you have gained a corporate job by getting your daddy to beg for you is totally pathetic. The fact that you openly admit and brag about it is just sad. Hopefully, daddy can keep your job for you cuz I assure that your old boss ain't jumping for joy that you just left him in a lurch.

Lastly, incredibly, the pilots on this board are encouraging a complete a**hole like yourself.

My advice is to try not to get fired and generally keep your idiot mouth shut. Keep sucking up to your dad too. Its working out great for you.

Congrats. You just won idiot of the month.

>>Proof solid, its not what you know its who you know in the corporate world, although I do consider myself a great pilot.>>

Man, I almost missed this quote from you. It makes me sad you are in my profession. What a jerk off.





La Rue said:
Hey guys,

Thanks for the kinds words and encouragement, even you dj2000 I do appreciate what you in so many words are saying.

Just returned from saying bye to my current now former employer and he was to say the least happy for me, even though I was not able to give him any appreciable notice I could work out.

But, as he said, I’m not the first person who had to leave for another job with no notice and he’s sure I won’t be his last either.

I’ve got the books the company gave me on the Lear 60 and I’m going to be reading into the wee hours of the morning. Then I’ve got to go and pilfer (Ermmmm, I mean appropriate) some boxes from the local Publix to pack up all my trash to move.

Again, guys thanks for the kind words.

James
:cool:
 

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Everyone had to start somewhere.... we all had 0 Jet time at some point....

I got hired at my Charter job with 0 turbine time... I left 3 1/2 years later with 1,800 turbine (1,350 of which was jet) and 3 jet type ratings....

I came into my current job with 3 jet type ratings and no international experience... I now have 2 more Type ratings and am a Captain on a $34 million jet flying worldwide...

Everyone had to start somewhere... some people get more help from others then some of us do (I had no connections, just persistence)... I bet one of your military buds has helped you get a job somewhere along the line....

This kid has 1700 hours... he is excited to have a jet job.... Remember GETTING a job is fairly easy, KEEPING it is another thing all together! The proof is in the pudding, if he can do it more power too him, if he can't... he'll be gone soon enough....

In the mean time, lets all not forget where we came from.... I wasn't born with my time, I earned it.... Flight Instructing, Charter and Corporate.... He will earn his too... as you also have earned yours...

Good Luck and Fly Safe!
 

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I've been out of work for over two months. I have over 1600 hours of Falcon 20 time and I can't get a job. It's not what you know but who you know sometimes. Take a job any way you can get it. I would gladly take a job that my father helped me get. I hope you have fun flying your first jet. I couldn't stop smiling the first time I took off in the Falcon.
Good Luck
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First Off, Congrats.

I will agree with the others that you might want to be a little more discreet with some of your info. The chief pilot that hired you knows your situation, but I'm willing to bet that several of your future co-workers were trying to get some of their friends hired for the spot you just filled, imagine how they are going to feel if they read your post.

You are going to love flying the 60. I'm not typed in the 60 but I have a little time in it and it is a hot rod. You didn't say if you are going to FSI or Bombardier for training, but I would recommend learning the "bold face" memory items verbatim, know the limitations by heart, and when you are going thru the AFM there are Warnings, Cautions, and Notes (they are boxed with an arrow) it will help to have looked at these. I wouldn't worry about "teaching" yourself the systems too much.

Good Luck.
 

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Re: You are a moron

Clownpilot said:
Lets recap.

You are essentially unqualified compared to many of the guys on the street with 2-10 times your hours.

You have no jet experience yet was hired over many qualified pilots with thousands of hours.

You have no jet time.

You went to your current employer and showed what you are made of by giving him NO notice and quitting immediately.
Incredibly, it appears he was actually nice to you about it.

You then came on this board to brag about how you secured a job you are completely unqualified to have by getting your lawyer daddy to pull some strings for you. Rubbing others noses in the fact that you have gained a corporate job by getting your daddy to beg for you is totally pathetic. The fact that you openly admit and brag about it is just sad. Hopefully, daddy can keep your job for you cuz I assure that your old boss ain't jumping for joy that you just left him in a lurch.

Lastly, incredibly, the pilots on this board are encouraging a complete a**hole like yourself.

My advice is to try not to get fired and generally keep your idiot mouth shut. Keep sucking up to your dad too. Its working out great for you.

Congrats. You just won idiot of the month.

>>Proof solid, its not what you know its who you know in the corporate world, although I do consider myself a great pilot.>>

Man, I almost missed this quote from you. It makes me sad you are in my profession. What a jerk off.






Wink at small faults; remember thou hast great ones.


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LaRue,

Congrats on the job but I have to somewhat agree with Clownpilot's stance. You are a professional pilot now so act like a professional on these boards.
 

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La Rue,

Looks like you upset a few people who don't even know you. Better get used to conflict resolution and personality management now... it will make you a better cockpit manager someday. Honestly, physically flying an airplane of any type is relatively easy as long as you have good training. Effective, positive human interaction in a close knit flight department is the real challenge. Like this forum, you may run into people who don't like you before they even get to know you.

Your first post on this thread gained you two and perhaps three detractors so far. (Shall we count the passive aggressive posts too?). Admittedly, passing judgement on you based on an exuberant thread posting is a bit reckless and quite unfair however, I do understand the frustration I've seen here.

I don't know you personally nor am I privy to the details, (aside from one message), surrounding your situation so I don't know if you're an ***hole or not as you are summarily categorized in a previous email. I do know however that I and other pilots out there struggled for many years before we were able to succeed in this business. Personally, I would have gladly accepted any help when I started. I suspect that even your detractors would have accepted help early in their careers as well. Your only transgression here is being a little naive. After reading your initial post, most of us expected you to get at least a few negative verbal volleys. Treat it like a situation that might arise in the cockpit... learn from it, put it behind you, and move on.

Just remember, there are an infinite number of opportunities to screw up in our beloved profession. Experience and humility will keep you from taking advantage of many of those opportunities.

Good luck,
 

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Congrats

La Rue,
Congrats on the new job - especially in this aviation market. You did it right - there is nothing wrong with having somebody help you get a job - its called NETWORKING. That's how it works in this world. Why do you think so many military guys get hired (some civilian guys too - lets not turn this into an "us vs them" war) with the majors - sure they are qualified, but it's because almost everybody has a "how can I help my buddy", and "who do I know at XXX company" mentality.

Unless you have 12 kazillion hours and have been to the moon, chances are you aren't going to get a job today by just sending a resume in cold.

Congrats - I can tell you are excited. The lear will be fun, and you will love your job. Good luck.

Chocks
 
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