Cruise Captain vs. Regular Captain Time

[FLYLOW22]

My basic rule is this:

If you have to ask, you are NOT the Captain.

 

[CJCCapt]

I would be interested in reading the FAR pertaining to that, can you please post it.?...

FAR 61.51(c) addresses logging of pilot time:

(2) Pilot-in-command flight time.

(i) A recreational, private, or commercial pilot may
log pilot-in-command time only that flight time during
which that pilot is the sole manipulator of the
controls of an aircraft for which the pilot is rated,
or when the pilot is the sole occupant of the aircraft,
or, except for a recreational pilot, when acting as
pilot-in-command of an aircraft on which more than one
pilot is required under the type certification or the
aircraft or the regulations under which the flight is
conducted.

(ii) An airline transport pilot may log as pilot in
command time all of the flight time during which he
acts as pilot in command...

Yes. I have seen this interperation. You posted the anwser yourself. I have underlined the words. 61.51(c) allows a recreational, private, or commercial pilot, but not an ATP, as sole manipulator, to log PIC time for the purpose for an advanced rating or certificate. Under (ii) the statement..."all flight time during which he acts as pilot in command..." refers to the definition of pilot in command contained in part 1.1.

So yes, two pilots on a flight deck under part 121 may log PIC time. The captain (an ATP) in charge of the flight (part 1.1) and a commercial, multi-engine, instrument rated, and type rated or with privileges for the aircraft FO if it's his leg (61.51(e)). However, if the FO is an ATP, the provisions of 61.51(e) no longer apply because of the disclaimer in 61.51(c) for the section and the statement in 61.51(e) that says "...only a recreational, private, or commercial pilot may..."

You are right. Generally the only PIC time an airline cares about is that logged while acting as PIC under the definition in part 1.1.

 

[AC560]

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So based on your interpretation how does an ATP pilot log PIC under part 91 flying a C172? If you read it your way an ATP can only log PIC under an operation requiring an ATP certificate.

 

[Draginass]

If you want to be laughed at and tossed out of an interview, claim "cruise captain" time.

 

[blzr]

Doesn't it say somewhere in the FAR's "If you see it log it, if you fly it, double it"? I think it does, or I only have 200 hours now.