- Sep 4, 2003
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Skywest, inc was well run. JA has given up a lot of influence and the thee prez's are incompetent.
In a work, yes. Research the Mesaba sham bankruptcy to see how the game is played. Funnel any profits and assets to holding company, drain the company that actually makes the money dry, at least on the books. Then cry poor to the "government" (i.e. a bankruptcy judge), who will authorize said company to rape employees blind, out of fiscal "necessity." Regardless of the fact that money is being made everywhere hand over fist, and any "shortages" are the direct result of collusion between multiple company managements.I heard an interesting argument: "What difference does it make? They'll (management) agree to the TA and then bankrupt us, forcing the pay lower. The Pinnacle guys screwed us."
Does this argument have merit? Can they do this with INC's 700+ million in the bank?
Well said. If they even threatened us with that, the pilots here would repeat 2007. L Nelson would be our leader and advisor.In a work, yes. Research the Mesaba sham bankruptcy to see how the game is played. Funnel any profits and assets to holding company, drain the company that actually makes the money dry, at least on the books. Then cry poor to the "government" (i.e. a bankruptcy judge), who will authorize said company to rape employees blind, out of fiscal "necessity." Regardless of the fact that money is being made everywhere hand over fist, and any "shortages" are the direct result of collusion between multiple company managements.
Not to turn this into a political thread, but the government was originally instituted to prevent individuals from plundering one another. Now through the bankruptcy process, the government is used as the main tool for enabling individuals to plunder one another. The bankruptcy process (at least Chapter 11) is an unjust perversion of the free market that needs to go away completely.
Will this happen at XJT? It might, but it also might not, depending on how JA wants to play the game. The ball that we all need to keep an eye on, though, is the fact that the hurdles to becoming an airline pilot have now become too great for someone who will only make regional FO wages, and so management is losing the ability to just shut down one regional and transfer the flying to someone else. We now have real leverage, and we are smarter than the Pinnacle pilots. We don't have to lose this one.
Skywest Airlines is still well run. And I'm not talking about profits. I'm talking operationally. There doesn't seem to be as many or as good resources on one side of the corporation than on the other. And I'm talking about human resources as well.Skywest, inc was well run. JA has given up a lot of influence and the thee prez's are incompetent.
Any pilot who been at ASA for the last 4 years or more has already endured an inordinate amount of suffering and life degradation due to our current contract. Horrible work rules and low pay have damaged the pilot group and destroyed many individuals. Threatening the pilot group with a potential loss of future flying will not work as an incentive to an agreement for concessions. Many pilots already plan on leaving or really don't care. There is a lot of anger and resentment toward the company that has festered for the past 5 years. The senior pilot group will not agree to dual qualification if their vacation is paid at 50 seat rates and their monthly pay is reduced when flying the 50. I don't think any pilots would agree to an hourly pay reduction. On the XJT side, I can't imagine things are any different. SKYW INC. is a profitable company. Don't give up your hard earned compensation and hard fought work rule improvements. Ask for more. Ask for what is due to you. You are worth it.
And I'll give you a few hints:
They are profitable because of the work that ALL the pilots do for low pay. Our skill set as pilots is very valuable. I think we often undervalue it. When you consider the training, intense oversight, long hours, long periods away from home, health hazards, lack of adequate sleep, public scrutiny, and managerial indifference to our needs, we are paid about half of what we deserve. The majors are getting back to a level of sanity regarding pay and we are going backwards. It's time to draw line.
yall are telling mgt to pound sand, well, remember the MECs work & (supposedly) represent us, so telll 'em to pound sand too. Let your LEC Reps know how you feel!The MECs will be the first to cave and start preaching how we just need to fight another day rather than letting time be on our side. ?
I find it a litte convenient that they walked in one day and were simply dumbfounded by the concessionary proposal.The Asa mec will sell out the pilots in exchange for a GO job when they are voted out after sli. They do not want to be line pilots.