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Max Q

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This won't be the same as "last time.". Mesaba pilots found out the hard way. Fact of the matter is 9E's concessionary deal is the new playing field of the DCI regionals. You will play ball or Delta will cut you out. I remember 9E's NO cries, STFD, no way, etc etc etc. Push comes to shove, all those NO voices voted 85% yes. I believing you too will vote yes once your job is on the line. There's no unity in airline pilot groups.
Answer me this, our flying goes to 9E, where the **** do you suppose they are going to get the pilots to operate the flights? There's no reason anybody needs to be pissing their little britches. Nobody's job is on the line but keep drinking that kool aid.
 

Mickey Mouse

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I can't do any concessions. I already feel like I work under concessions. If it doesn't work out, I'll go work somewhere else.
 

ASAFOE120

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This won't be the same as "last time.". Mesaba pilots found out the hard way. Fact of the matter is 9E's concessionary deal is the new playing field of the DCI regionals. You will play ball or Delta will cut you out. I remember 9E's NO cries, STFD, no way, etc etc etc. Push comes to shove, all those NO voices voted 85% yes. I believing you too will vote yes once your job is on the line. There's no unity in airline pilot groups.
RA stated on the conference call that he believes this will be one of deltas most profitable years ever. I WILL NOT EVER vote yes for concessions so that delta can keep making money hand over fist. Delta needs to recognize that not only is it important for their business to make a profit, but also his company's "partners" to be profitable.

If JA and delta can't make this happen, then it's time for JA to take his ball and find a new game. Prayerfully, my fellow XJT pilots feel the same.
 

Nevets

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Just as I posted on the other site. NO.

And in case your didn't hear, RA at delta stated "We expect 2013 will be one of Delta's most profitable years ever". Hope he personally thanked every PNCL pilot for contributing.

And I DO NOT, I mean WILL NOT take a penny of a concession on my CBA or the LXJT CBA to help increase there profits!!!!

Thank you
That's what I like to hear! Thank you.
 

ohplease!

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Yes. The greedy lifers
More likely the junior folks who are convinced there is a huge pilot shortage and they are going to leave for greener "mainline" pastures "any day now".....
 

Mickey Mouse

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If we look at one million other negotiations conducted by one million other business partners, we can make some reasonable predictions. Negotiating parties start low and high and finally end up in the middle. Skywest Inc. probably understands that the ASA/XJT pilot groups don't scare easily. In fact, I think there is a well established history of ASA pilots never agreeing to concessions, ever. Talking with many Legacy XJT pilots, I think they are just as hardcore. Therefore, the strategy of Skywest Inc. is probably a break even contract. Mormons don't drink much, so they certainly don't believe that either pilot group would give anything up. At the risk of having rocks thrown at me, I like Skywest management. I think they are smart business people and generally honorable. In that light, I sincerely hope they don't overplay their hand. They will lose.
 
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russtgol

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If we look at one million other negotiations conducted by one million other business partners, we can make some reasonable predictions. Negotiating parties start low and high and finally end up in the middle. Skywest Inc. probably understands that the ASA/XJT pilot groups don't scare easily. In fact, I think there is a well established history of ASA pilots never agreeing to concessions, ever. Talking with many Legacy XJT pilots, I think they are just as hardcore. Therefore, the strategy of Skywest Inc. is probably a break even contract. Mormons don't drink much, so they certainly don't believe that either pilot group would give anything up. At the risk of having rocks thrown at me, I like Skywest management. I think they are smart business people and generally honorable. In that light, I sincerely hope they don't overplay their hand. They will lose.
I wouldn't bet on that..
 

Mickey Mouse

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I'll go a step further. If the ASA/XJT Joint MEC even presents a concessionary TA to the pilot group for a vote , I will spit in their faces, individually. I have nothing to lose.
 

Clutch

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More likely the junior folks who are convinced there is a huge pilot shortage and they are going to leave for greener "mainline" pastures "any day now".....
JoeMerchant, aka John Br--ling, already said he'd vote for concessions rather than have to start over somewhere else. I'm just gonna lump that pathetic sack of crap lifer in with the rest of ya.
 

russtgol

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I'll go a step further. If the ASA/XJT Joint MEC even presents a concessionary TA to the pilot group for a vote , I will spit in their faces, individually. I have nothing to lose.
Yea sure you will..:rolleyes:
 

Mickey Mouse

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Yea sure you will..:rolleyes:
Go to San Francisco. You'll fit-in just fine. You want me to do all the heavy lifting. I do it for me. You are a watcher. I am doer. Your father was probably a watcher. He taught you well.
 
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russtgol

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Go to San Francisco. You'll fit-in just fine. You want me to do all the heavy lifting. I do it for me. You are a watcher. I am doer. Your father was probably a watcher. He taught you well.
Guess your pops was a stand up fellow? He taught you to spit in peoples faces.Thats real heavy lifting?
 

skyman50

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Let me think about this one.................................................................................NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

damnflyboy

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I heard an interesting argument: "What difference does it make? They'll (management) agree to the TA and then bankrupt us, forcing the pay lower. The Pinnacle guys screwed us."

Does this argument have merit? Can they do this with INC's 700+ million in the bank?

Edumicate me.
 
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