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Looks like the 717 may is being used as a form of trade with Delta for a gate SWAP in ATL. Sources say that WN first 4 gates will be at the D gates starting in Feb 2012 and now WNand Delta are in talks about trading All the FL C gates for all of Delta D gates.
Along with this gate trade WN will trade 30 717 for 10 737-700 and 3 737-800 from Delta next year.Along with this WN will be adding a mix of 80 new and used 737-700 and 800 from a Boeing leasing company from June 2012 until Jan 2013.
During this time frame 6 717 will be moved from the fleet at a time and replaced with New and used 737-700 and 800. Delta will add the 717 to replace the 29 DC 9 50 and the 13 737 in the swap plus add additional aircraft.
When all is said and done WN will have off loaded all of the 717. Retired all the 737-500 and a few 737-300. The cost saving from not having redo any 717 into the WN fleet and the retirement off all the 737-500 and some older 300 will end up saving WN millions a year.
And at ATL WN will end up with all the D gates with 30 gates total that will be able to handle a 737-800 The only down side is 1# no 717 in ever in the WN fleet.
Awesome info, especially for a first post. Where did you get this info if you don't mind letting us know. As Ronald Reagan said, "Trust, but verify."
At that rate of supposed aircraft transfer, enough senior AT pilots could try to bump junior SWA FOs around after the SLI. And, if it happened it sounds like enough planes would be either transferred initially, or enough new planes from Boeing could keep coming to SWA to keep the Airtran guys around if they wanted to stay.
I'd expect the 717 gone sooner than later. That said, they can't man all those 737s that are coming without the AAI pilots. SWA can't hire and train that fast. No one can.
If the planes are coming from Boeing and not AirTran than how will that work interms of the pilots?
Again. Vizzini, truly, you have a dizzying intellect.
I doubt that any of SWA's plans call for taking AAI's 737s without the pilots. The legal ramifications are too great.
But for the sake of yucks, put pen to paper.
Total number of current SWA aircraft.
Total number of SWA pilots.
Total number of additional anticipated aircraft and how many additional pilots would be needed to man those airframes.
Amount of time required to reconfigure new aircraft to SWA style seating.
The amount of time to train a SWA CA from FO.
The amount of time to train a SWA FO from off the street.
The abilitiy for the pilot population to pick up trips due to block hour surges.
Winter block hour reductions and maximum training events that could be accomplished without negative impact on SWA's schedule.
Here's a start: Southwest has 550 737s. AirTran has 52 737s.
If anyone ever wonders why management doesn't respect most pilots' opinions, there's no need to read any further.