Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
Where does this stuff about Iraq and it's big influence/impact on energy come from?! With Iraq essentially out of the Western oil picture, (taking out the taxes & correcting for inflation) gasoline prices right now are as low as they've ever been. Where's the big incentive to provide more supply at the cost of a major world conflict, lives of many people and world scrutiny? I don't see it.ifly4food said:So again, I ask, if not for oil and pride, why is Iraq a larger threat to the world than N. Korea?
In that case I hope you won't mind if I provide a counter point to those who have not yet made up their mind.To all who have disagreed with my statements: I am not trying to convince you I am right as I realize this is impossible....To all who have yet to make an opinion: you are the ones I am speaking to.
You are not a conspiracy theorist, but....1. Big brother.
I am no conspiracy theorist, but look around you. Now compare how much we are watched by the government today compared to 50 years ago. Technological advances have made this possible and it is fed by post 9/11/01 hysteria and parenoia.
I fail to see how anyone can deny this is a concern.
Again, you're being a little too dramatic IMHO. If you read the statement on denying pilot's certificates, it doesn't say that a security screener can yank it. This is where they research you and decide you may be a terrorist trying to learn how to fly an airplane.2. The Thought Police (TSA)
What differentiates the TSA from the FBI or any other governmental police force is the lack of Due Process.
If you run afoul of the TSA there are no trials. No proceedings are public. There are no real appeals. This is all in the name of "national security".
Now, the TSA can take even your pilot license away because a pinhead buereauocrat at a checkpoint doesn't like your attitude and decides to get even by declaring you a "security risk".
Watch for this power to expand into loss of driver's licences, travel privilleges, passports, etc. in the future.
At least the FBI must indict you of something and hold a trial before you are penalized.
1) Do you recall us sending troops to Yugoslavia? or Haiti? Do you recall us shooting missles off at factories in Africa? I don't agree that we have been at relative peace.3. War.
I was speaking of war in general. After years of relative peace we have become a nation bent on waging global war. I am no hippie, but I don't feel we should be waging war in Iraq or N. Korea.
I contend it is due to American ego and a need to show power. It also is intended to focus the American people on a patriotic cause so that we don't question the actions of our government.
Iraq is more of a threat than North Korea for 2 reasons:However, to those of you who spoke so strongly in support of war with Iraq...
Why is Iraq, more of a threat then N. Korea?
We have shown NO EVIDENCE that Iraq posesses weapons of mass destruction. N. Korea is known to posess enough nuclear material to assemble several warheads in short order and has said they plan to make more. They also posess the missles to attack Japan, China, S. Korea and other neighbors.
flywithastick said:Where does this stuff about Iraq and it's big influence/impact on energy come from?! With Iraq essentially out of the Western oil picture, (taking out the taxes & correcting for inflation) gasoline prices right now are as low as they've ever been. Where's the big incentive to provide more supply at the cost of a major world conflict, lives of many people and world scrutiny? I don't see it.
Maybe Bush and his cronies just want the oil for themselves. They're going to seize it and put all the land and minerals in their name! No one will notice. No one noticed in '91 when GHWB seized Kuwaits assets. What a deal!!
Why are France, Germany & Russia so opposed to enforcing the UN resolutions? Morality? Nope - money!! They're the one's who do have investment in Iraq. Both weapons and oil production equipment. Who do you think sold them the uranium centrifuges? Germany! Who does Iraq owe big $$ to for weapons and oil production equipment? Russia! Can't link France in here right now - they're just elitist idiots.
I totally agree with the comments about Big Brother and infringements on our privacy and personal liberty. Can't say I agree with Ifly4food's thoughts on Bush's intentions in Iraq though.merikeyegro said:Ifly4food has foresight. What happens now is not the problem. Once it starts, it's going to be tough to stop it.
60's?!?! How about the dozens of women and children gassed, burned and shot at Waco in 1993?!Oh yeah, and the FBI HAS abused their powers in the past. Take a look at the 1960s...