UAL Furloughees... We're supposed to have jobs

[waveflyer]

Bottom line. Legacy pilots industry wide did not give a rats a$$ about their junior pilots. Outsourced while furloughing. Creating a completely disenfranchised group that can never be paid that well. Making it possible for places like skybus and VA and Jblue and USAIr to pay so little and have a virtually unlimited supply of pilots for whom they are a step up- and full circle then putting downward pressure on everyones wages.

Nice work fellas. Gave yourself a paycut and screwed up a bunch of pilots lives in the process.

 

[JoeMerchant]

So the question becomes- when will ALPA get on this fix and get everyone on one list? Right Joe?

Oh wait- no you'd want date of hire and would fight for the 'seniority' you currently have and would derail the whole thing- nevermind that every pilot at mainline went through a really trying interview process that you didn't. Lawsuits galore on all sides- and management wins bc of our egos

Mainline pilots want even better than DOH....If it was up to them, a 3 year mainline pilot would bump a 25 year "lifer" out of their seat...How is that fair? We will derail anything that doesn't honor our current QOL and seniority on our equipment....We will meet them HALFWAY...

The ego is on the mainline side...Even your post implies they are better because they "went through a really trying interview process that I didn't"...Who cares? They can interview here if they want to fly RJs and take their spot at the bottom like any new hire...That's what I can do if I want a mainline job....

Fair brand scope is a win/win for all....Mainline welfare job placement is a dead end....

 

[waveflyer]

Now just imagine the relative peace and prosperity that would exist if RJs were mainline aircraft. How much stronger would your union be? Everyones rights clearly defined by seniority lists that would be double their current size at each carrier. How dumb we were and continue to be.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Bottom line. Legacy pilots industry wide did not give a rats a$$ about their junior pilots. Outsourced while furloughing. Creating a completely disenfranchised group that can never be paid that well. Making it possible for places like skybus and VA and Jblue and USAIr to pay so little and have a virtually unlimited supply of pilots for whom they are a step up- and full circle then putting downward pressure on everyones wages.

Nice work fellas. Gave yourself a paycut and screwed up a bunch of pilots lives in the process.

That about sums it up perfectly...Don't take my job because senior mainline pilots screwed the junior ones..Take it up with them!

 

[JoeMerchant]

Now just imagine the relative peace and prosperity that would exist if RJs were mainline aircraft. How much stronger would your union be? Everyones rights clearly defined by seniority lists that would be double their current size at each carrier. How dumb we were and continue to be.

Yep...ASA and CMR pilots tried to make that happen back in 2000.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Yep...ASA and CMR pilots tried to make that happen back in 2000.

Nice try. That's not what happened, and you know it! Of course you or any of those asswipes at the rjdc have never been known for telling the truth. That's why you're stuck where you are!

 

[JoeMerchant]

Nice try. That's not what happened, and you know it! Of course you or any of those asswipes at the rjdc have never been known for telling the truth. That's why you're stuck where you are!

It's exactly what happened and you know it, despite the DALPA spin job. It was PID filing in accordance with ALPA merger policy. DALPA opposed on the basis of it not being appropriate to merge a mainline and regional list. Shall we dig up the DALPA response for everyone to read?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Here are the documents for everyone to read for themselves.

http://www.rjdefense.com/petition.pdf

http://www.rjdefense.com/ecpresin.pdf

http://www.rjdefense.com/dalmecmergsub.pdf

 

[QOL_is_great:)]

The problem with the whole thing is that if a person is furloughed at United they should flow to the Captains Seat at the regional....but they have it as going to the FO's seat....just shows the weakness in the Union.

Let me see if I am following the drama that is unfolding in this movie here. Popcorn in hand.

Major airline pilots talk down and look down upon regional pilots when times are good. They call them selected names, mention how a certain regional isn't owned by their major; safety, work rules and training are all sub-par. Or they say how they are stealing jobs from the major with their RJs. Just reference what is taking place regarding the fallout from the Colgan crash in BUF or the lastest "kidnapping" in a CAL Express plane and mainline is tossing XJ under the bus.

Now times are tough and some major pilots are being shown the door and not only want a guaranteed seat, but they now say they should be placed right into the leftseat. Great thought if there was a flow or path that one followed to get into the mainline jet from the bottom feeder. Like RJ rightseat to leftseat then jump to a rightseat mainline then over to the leftseat after years for flying. Since it doesn't work that way then why should it work the opposite way? It shouldn't!!

Aren't some of the major pilots speaking with a forked tongue?

 

[Scope out RJ's]

It's exactly what happened and you know it, despite the DALPA spin job.

No it wasn't dickhead. Then why the lawsuit? More of the lies bestowed by the loser lifers at the rjdc!

It was PID filing in accordance with ALPA merger policy. DALPA opposed on the basis of it not being appropriate to merge a mainline and regional list. Shall we dig up the DALPA response for everyone to read?

There was no PID Joe, don't forget that little nugget. Just keep reaching, I'm sure you'll find Dan in there somewhere!
How about the $$million lawsuit filed by the rjdc?
There's a reason you're stuck at a regional joe. As with most of the other rjdc lifers, DUI's questionable backgrounds, no college are what keeps them there. Then you started your campaign, which like your career, failed miserably!
Don't worry, you and your band of sisters are right there in history next to the folks that went to work at CAL back in 1983!
Enjoy that career at dwindling ASA, it might be as successful as that lawsuit!:laugh: