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some further points
Glad to see we got everything stirred a bit.
First, I do not think that concessions alone will accomplish anything towards the rebuilding of United Airlines. If you read my earlier posts, you would know that I was not defending past management although I thought it too wide to lump all their decisions as bad. Some only looked bad in light of events they could not anticipate.
Secondly, I have over 35 years in the management of companies, both airlines and other industries. I think I have a base of experience and expertise in the field, certainly enough to discuss it.
Thirdly, future money gained in negotiations is only yours after it is earned and there is a company there to earn it from. The last pilot contract was met almost universally by the investment and business community as unaffordable by United. It was also pointed out by others that the labor actions taken by the pilot corp prior to the contract completion was detrimental to keeping their business traffic.
To me it was extremely unfortunate that time was wasted trying to come to terms with the other labor groups for new wage levels only so that could be out of the way for concession talks. Here is your raise, now give it back. When this company needed to be together, it has no leader and spends its time coping with things like this.
And Furloughed, Frank Lorenzo did not drive Eastern into the ground, you can look to Borman for that one. Continental had to get in such bad shape that Gordon could come in and say this is how it is going to be or we will shut the doors. Sort of th eSteve Wolf approach with a lot more charm and tact.
My original point is that every day that goes by with this dragging is two days more to recover. If concessions discussions become renegotiation of entire contracts, UAL will continue to lose marketshare and time. It cannot afford either one.
Glad to see we got everything stirred a bit.
First, I do not think that concessions alone will accomplish anything towards the rebuilding of United Airlines. If you read my earlier posts, you would know that I was not defending past management although I thought it too wide to lump all their decisions as bad. Some only looked bad in light of events they could not anticipate.
Secondly, I have over 35 years in the management of companies, both airlines and other industries. I think I have a base of experience and expertise in the field, certainly enough to discuss it.
Thirdly, future money gained in negotiations is only yours after it is earned and there is a company there to earn it from. The last pilot contract was met almost universally by the investment and business community as unaffordable by United. It was also pointed out by others that the labor actions taken by the pilot corp prior to the contract completion was detrimental to keeping their business traffic.
To me it was extremely unfortunate that time was wasted trying to come to terms with the other labor groups for new wage levels only so that could be out of the way for concession talks. Here is your raise, now give it back. When this company needed to be together, it has no leader and spends its time coping with things like this.
And Furloughed, Frank Lorenzo did not drive Eastern into the ground, you can look to Borman for that one. Continental had to get in such bad shape that Gordon could come in and say this is how it is going to be or we will shut the doors. Sort of th eSteve Wolf approach with a lot more charm and tact.
My original point is that every day that goes by with this dragging is two days more to recover. If concessions discussions become renegotiation of entire contracts, UAL will continue to lose marketshare and time. It cannot afford either one.