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If ASA is counting on Skywest to help with their problems, they better go to plan B. I don't think there is enough support for it to get to a vote. There are some strong areas of support, but overall, not enough to bring ALPA in.
Well, if ASA is on their own, why would they not race for the bottom and try to cut SkyWest out of some aircraft transfers?I agree. ASA is on their own.
Fins,
One big difference here. We at SkyWest are at will employees, meaning, If you guys hold the bar up on Pay, Great! If you don't, Great!
What I mean is no ill will to you at ASA but that if we grow because of your loss it is not because of us Pilots at SkyWest. We don't make or influence these decisions at all. We can't we have no Union. Mangmt. makes all the decions not us.
If we get a paycut because of your growth, it does matter to us because you have a Union and do have voting rights. So in a direct way you could hurt us in the Pocketbokk, upgrade, etc. Directly. In the end Mangmt will do what they want though.
Let me explain it another way.
If things go great for us at SkyWest then we can only blame JA and mangmet.
If things go bad at SkyWest then we can only blame JA and Mangmnt. If.....and I mean if we vote in ALPA then there will be two ALPA groups and at that point Mangmt no longer can strong arm you at ASA. There really can be no Whipsaw action by Mangmt because we (SkyWest Pilots)can not fight back. If only one can fight at a boxing match, there can't be much fighting or in this case whipsawing going on can there. It is pretty much one sided Whipsawing from your end. Sorry but again we have no say when it comes down to it just JA and Mangmt.
I can tell you right now 99% of us at SkyWest do not want to merge into one group. You at ASA have the upper hand on Hire date. As you can tell or maybe not, but at SkyWest Pay is not everything for us here. Quality of Life has allot to do with it also. If we were to combine into one group we at SkyWest would lose that quality of life. Which means you now can upgrade faster, etc.
In the end what would we get out of Being ALPA if a mrege would happen?
I ask this as a sincere question. YOu can't promise me that I would be able to bid my lines at the seniority, Fly the trips I want.....
We at SkyWest could and would loose out.
Right now we are happy at where we are now. Could things be better...sure. Be worse.....sure. But many of us look and guess the future, and right now, we think ALPA could be better for us as a SkyWest Pilot group but it could be alot worse then it is now and most of us do not wan to gamble. The Pro's don't out weigh the Cons. They just don't to many what if's that either you nor I can promsie wont happen.
We are Stuck between a rock and a hard place at SkyWest. Right now we are picking the hardplace. Nethier one of us is going to come out both happy in the end.
Why should I compromise with you id I don't have to?
I am afraid it is you vs us and I hate to say it....I am selfish I am going to worry about me first and you Fins, Second.
If you say other wise I would say you are a lier to but it bluntly. "Brotherhood" would be nice and all but come on this is not a perfect world. If I could trust you and you trust me then maybe we might have a future together as one,(didn't mean to sound gay there, you know what I mean) But I don't. I don't even know your name. How can I vote in ALPA or say to JA that we are together when we didn't even make an attept to have a Company Pic-nic, BBQ, Softball game this past summer when you ASA guys were in SLC??? Granted we didn't extend the olive branch either but I think we both blew it. I blame my SAPA and I blame your ALPA. These are just my thoughts and not from the Pilot group but I think some points are from each and everyone of us.
Fire away I just wanted to be open and honest to you so maybe you could understand what we are thinking on the other side of the fence?