T/A vote Tues am

[tie1on]

The latest is Tuesday morning for a vote on the T/A. Unless they feel they need more input from SME's .

 

[Ex737Driver]

Man I hope both vote it down. If not, were screwed.

 

[Skyflyin]

If the MECs don't vote it down, then they will most likely be voted out after bringing us this absolute crap contract. CAL has waited four long years for this? Unbelievable. What a mess.

 

[whymeworry?]

Too bad the sUAL pilots are tripping over themselves to see this crappy TA voted in.

 

[davessn763]

I'll vote no on this. The TA better not look like this.

Zero stock (DALPA 5%=$37K/pilot, APA 13.5% = $100K)
$400M retro pay – avg. $34,000/pilot (DALPA: 2 on-time contracts = 100% retro)
UALPA determine allocation of L-UAL’s $225M retro cut (2/3 on eff date, 1/3 @ SLI)

Pay bands
• A380
• 747, A350, 777, 787, 767-400
• 767-300, 767-200, 757-300
• 757-200, 737-900/800, A320/321
• 737-700/500, A319
• EMB-190

Pay rates
• 2013: DAL - 8.5%
• 2014: DAL - 3%
• 2015: DAL - 3%
• 2016: DAL + 0%
• 2017: DAL + 3% (3% pay raise the day before the amendable date)

Amendable 1/1/17 (4-year CBA) (DALPA amendable 1/1/16 (3.5-year CBA))
16% B/C plan + frozen CAL A-plan (DALPA 15% B/C plan + frozen NW A-plan)
Premium pay for forced junior manning
Voluntary movable domestic RDOs for higher guarantee
Minimum 5 hours credit time/calendar day
Same Int’l override as DALPA
Long-term disability plan: pilot-financed $1-2/flight hour, max $97,000/year benefit
CAL PBS system, UA trip-trading system
CAL vacation system
3.25 hours/vacation day
2 less days of vacation for most senior pilots
No more credit time for vacation drops
3/3.25 hours/training day (<5/>5 day training period)
Significant concessions on hotel rights from UA CBA
New alt. dispute resolution philosophy of “mutually agree,” “company discretion”
Traditional medical plan: UA/CAL hybrid w/ higher out of pocket pilot expenses
HMO plans suffer a significant increase in out of pocket pilot cost
Trip rigs: 4 to 1 now & 3.5 to 1 on 1/1/14 which DALPA has had for years
Scope: similar to DALPA, arguably a little more restrictive on SJs
UAX flies SJs up to 88,000 lbs MTOGW (DALPA up to 223 76 seat SJs, 450 ttl)
UAX EMB-175s & CRJ-900 w/ 76 seats

 

[johnsonrod]

Yeah, and everyone thought Romney had a good shot at beating Obama... :crying: Let's hope the UAL pilots have better foresight and SHOOT THIS THING DOWN.

 

[tie1on]

I don't think so. Hope and change.

 

[XJTAv8r]

If the MECs don't vote it down, then they will most likely be voted out after bringing us this absolute crap contract. CAL has waited four long years for this? Unbelievable. What a mess.

The TA just passed both MECs & now going out to the pilots for a vote. No additional details yet & Calforums keeps crashing presumably due to volume.

 

[Yuppyguppy]

If what I've seen here is true. Then NO Vote will ensue

 

[KSwift]

If what I've seen here is true. Then NO Vote will ensue

I hope your right! I haven't met a yes voter yet, including the scab who picked up my turn at voluntary junior man pay last week. :angryfire. We shall see. I'm voting NO!