Skywest FA makes Guy Pi$$ his Pants

[Hovernut]

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_5453315

For God's sake, if the light is out, give the poor fella a flashlight! The CRJ's glorified outhouse is usable under most all conditions. You can manually flush it for Pete's sake by poking open the darned flapper.

Yes, defer it if you must, but 'emergency use' should always be considered! Nothing more painful than trying to tanker pi$$! Gotta love these militant FAs!

 

[OPECJet]

My favorite are the nazi hags who lock the crapper anytime the seatbelt sign is on. Get a life!

 

[erj-145mech]

If its MEL'd, then its out of service. It is not up to the CA or the FA. What do you want to do, CX a flight so that the crapper is in service?

 

[DrewBlows]

You can manually flush it for Pete's sake by poking open the darned flapper.

Maybe YOU can manually flush it. I know I can't (won't). That's frigging disgusting.


"Gross!" - Napoleon Dynamite

 

[JvW]

Even if its MEL'd, when somebody has a dire emergency then go...nobody is going to pee in their pants on my flights...similar to when we have an emergency during flight, throw the FARs out, do what you have to do...

Just my 2cents

JvW

 

[John Pennekamp]

Here's the whole story:

Desperate, he used air sickness bag for urinary relief
By Paul Beebe
The Salt Lake Tribune
Article Last Updated: 03/16/2007 03:40:46 PM MDT

Posted: 2:05 PM- SkyWest Airlines has apologized to a passenger barred from a plane's restroom by a flight attendant.
James Whipple says that after repeated pleas to empty his beer-filled bladder on a recent flight, he finally found relief - with an air sickness bag.
Now, the Sandy man says SkyWest has issued him an apology for his distress.
"It was like I had no choice. I started to urinate on myself. So, thinking the way I thought, I grabbed one of those vomit bags," Whipple said.
"I didn't think I did anything wrong. I could have relieved myself all over my pants. It was almost like that was what she preferred me to do," he said.
On Wednesday, an airline representative apologized to Whipple on behalf of the attendant and promised to send him some travel vouchers.
But a SkyWest spokeswoman also said Whipple wanted to use the bathroom while the fasten-seatbelt light was illuminated. That is against Federal Aviation Administration regulations.
The captain had switched on the fasten-seatbelt light during the hour-long flight because the bathroom was unusable - the light was out.
SkyWest spokeswoman Sabrena Suite-Mangum says that policy is a matter of passenger safety. "As such we expect all our employees to adhere to those federal regulations," she
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said.
The episode occurred amid renewed scrutiny of how airlines treat passengers. A poll by Siena College in New York discovered that three in four fliers support calls for a passenger Bill of Rights. The poll was motivated by reports of a JetBlue Airways flight that stranded passengers on a New York runway for more than 10 hours last month.
"For a pilot to declare a lavatory inoperable for a one-hour flight is acceptable to the FAA," Federal Aviation Administration spokesman Mike Fergus said.
Whipple's travails began on the evening of March 7. Whipple, who had been working in Boise all day, was dropped off at the airport about 90 minutes before his flight departed. With little to do, he retired to an airport bar for "two really big beers," he said.
Whipple visited a bathroom in the airport before getting on board for the 67-minute flight to Salt Lake. He said he was allowed to use the aircraft's bathroom while the jet was taxiing from the gate. Whipple said the attendant had announced to passengers that the bathroom was out of order, but didn't explain further.
Suite-Mangum said the captain did allow passengers to use the bathroom as long as the plane was stationary. She said the plane was not moving when Whipple was relieving himself in the bathroom.
"We took a minor delay for this," Suite-Mangum said.
When the 50-seat aircraft was aloft, Whipple drank a soft drink. He said his ordeal began shortly afterward.
"I really had to go. I kept asking three or four times, 'may I use the bathroom?'. She kept telling me no. The fourth time I asked, we were in final descent [into Salt Lake], which was her excuse," Whipple said.
Whipple said there didn't seem to be anything wrong with the bathroom when he used it earlier.
"She [the attendant] acted like we were all cattle and she wanted her shift done," Whipple said.
The airplane wasn't full, Whipple said. Nobody was seated next to him, and the closest passenger was across the aisle in a window seat. So he unzipped his pants, covered himself and urinated into the bag. He closed the bag and laid it on the seat beside him.
The attendant, who had been sitting in a jump seat as the plane descended, confronted Whipple. She asked if he had relieved himself. Whipple replied he had.
"I wasn't trying to hide anything," he said.
The attendant then telephoned the captain. When the plane reached the terminal, Whipple was asked to stay on board while the other passengers got off. A policewoman entered the jet and escorted him to the tarmac, where more than a dozen officers were waiting. Some of the officers questioned the attendant. Other police spoke to passengers. Some said they had seen nothing. One passenger said Whipple wasn't abusive or belligerent.
Whipple was taken to a police station at Salt Lake City International Airport. He said he asked to take a sobriety test, which showed his blood alcohol content was 0.08 percent, which is considered legally impaired. After two hours, he took a taxi home. No charges were filed.
Whipple said he isn't placated, in spite of SkyWest's apology.
"I think it's very wrong for them to put a commercial airliner in the air if it's not in complete working order, regardless of whether [the problem] is a lavatory, or a tire, or anything. We are paying customers, and we put our lives in their hands to fly," he said.

The FA didn't "make him piss". The lav was deferred. Period. When that happens, your MEL states "Lavatory must not be used...". If you or the FA allow someone to use it you are putting your career on the line.

Blame management for letting a plane fly without a lav and blame a a drunk (yes, his BAC was 0.08% AFTER the flight!) for pissing in an airsickness bag, which got him arrested. Now his only defense is to play the victim for public sympathy.

Nothing to see here, folks, move on...

 

[WalterSobchak]

"I think it's very wrong for them to put a commercial airliner in the air if it's not in complete working order, regardless of whether [the problem] is a lavatory, or a tire, or anything. We are paying customers, and we put our lives in their hands to fly," he said.

I love this line. If the average passenger had any idea...

 

[belchfire]

He should have been aboard one corpex flight when the CA had an explosive failure of the air-sheite seperator...

I know that there were several times that coffee cups were used on jetstreams...

 

[CL600Pilot]

What do you want to do, CX a flight so that the crapper is in service?

Depending on the flight YES! 1 hour flight maybe not but with some of the stage lengths that CRJ/ERJs are flying these days I would consider it a necessity. I delayed (greatly) 2 flights in a CRJ-200 that were blocked at 3+30 due to an inop crapper.

 

[Crossky]

Blame management for letting a plane fly without a lav and blame a a drunk (yes, his BAC was 0.08% AFTER the flight!) for pissing in an airsickness bag, which got him arrested. Now his only defense is to play the victim for public sympathy.

Hate to respond like this on a Sunday morning, but if he was drunk, why did the CSA's, the FA, and the CA permit him to board in Boise anyway?

Also, it's a light bulb that was broken, get it fixed at the hub and delay if you have to! Takes 5 min tops.

SKW is know for their superior customer service, what happened in this case? FA let him borrow your flashlight, or one of the pilots. Move pax out of the way of the lav door and leave it cracked open.

Thumbs down to SKW. We used to get piss bags regularly flying the long routes for GLA.