PTinbound
Kool Aid CEO
- Joined
- Jan 28, 2002
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Gentlemen, come, let us reason together.
Let's say we want to be an airline like United (zoiks). We demand no less than $354 per trip. Relations become sour and we go down that disasterous road, and then the current contract becomes ammendable on 8-31-04, at which point negotions will begin for the next contract. Who knows how long that would take at that point anyway. So our senior captains would be making 138 then.
Plan B: Let's (you guys, I guess, poolies don't count) sign this right now. On 9-01-04, that same senior dude in Dallas is now making either 158 or 163, and earnest negotions will begin a whopping FOURTEEN MONTHS later on 11-01-05. (The proposed contract is ammendable 8-31-06, with negotiations to start 11-01-05). So if this guy works a day extra and credits 110 TFP's a month, he's making (at the 163 figure) $215,160 counting only straight flight pay, as opposed to $182,160 on the current books.
That's an extra 33 grand just in pay, not counting the extra profitsharing, etc that would be created in an atmosphere where the pilot group works with everybody to make a strong company that we all love. Anyway, signing this "Interim Offer" I think will only delay earnest negotiations for 14 months, not the four years that it seems. In the meantime, the new hires once again get stock options, all the FO's upgrade sooner, the senior guys get better retirement medical bennies and the extra 33 grand, the pool gets drained out, interviewing starts, the stockholders (including pilots) send their kids to college, and everyone gets a couple more thousand people below them. And we don't end up like the proverbial Smiths and Jones's.
Who was it that said "show me the money?" Dude, I can live like a king on 180. Give me 215 someday and make me senior and I'll call that great. How much money do you need to be happy, anyway? "A man who loves money never has money enough", a wise man once said. (King Solomon) I'd rather scrape by on 215, loving my job, my coworkers, and my management team, than make 300 and dread every day on the job. Life is too short for that. I know, I know. Lay off the Kool Aid.
Let's say we want to be an airline like United (zoiks). We demand no less than $354 per trip. Relations become sour and we go down that disasterous road, and then the current contract becomes ammendable on 8-31-04, at which point negotions will begin for the next contract. Who knows how long that would take at that point anyway. So our senior captains would be making 138 then.
Plan B: Let's (you guys, I guess, poolies don't count) sign this right now. On 9-01-04, that same senior dude in Dallas is now making either 158 or 163, and earnest negotions will begin a whopping FOURTEEN MONTHS later on 11-01-05. (The proposed contract is ammendable 8-31-06, with negotiations to start 11-01-05). So if this guy works a day extra and credits 110 TFP's a month, he's making (at the 163 figure) $215,160 counting only straight flight pay, as opposed to $182,160 on the current books.
That's an extra 33 grand just in pay, not counting the extra profitsharing, etc that would be created in an atmosphere where the pilot group works with everybody to make a strong company that we all love. Anyway, signing this "Interim Offer" I think will only delay earnest negotiations for 14 months, not the four years that it seems. In the meantime, the new hires once again get stock options, all the FO's upgrade sooner, the senior guys get better retirement medical bennies and the extra 33 grand, the pool gets drained out, interviewing starts, the stockholders (including pilots) send their kids to college, and everyone gets a couple more thousand people below them. And we don't end up like the proverbial Smiths and Jones's.
Who was it that said "show me the money?" Dude, I can live like a king on 180. Give me 215 someday and make me senior and I'll call that great. How much money do you need to be happy, anyway? "A man who loves money never has money enough", a wise man once said. (King Solomon) I'd rather scrape by on 215, loving my job, my coworkers, and my management team, than make 300 and dread every day on the job. Life is too short for that. I know, I know. Lay off the Kool Aid.