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Frac Daddy

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What do those CRJ captains at Freedom make per hour? What does that translate into per year? I understand the "union busting" issue surrounding this company. I just am curious how low they are paid.
 
quoted from Freemdom's pilot handbook:

Compensation

Pilots will be paid based on “segment time” which is the historical block to block time between
city pairs. The Pilot Advisory Board will appoint a committee to review the segment times using
previous data and make recommendations for changes to the established segment times. The
Company will review the suggestions of the Pilot Advisory Board and when appropriate, will
adjust segment times accordingly. If there is no known segment time (for charters, reposition
flights, deadhead flights, attempted flights or diverted flights, etc. the actual block to block flight
time will be used.)

Pilots will receive hourly flight pay based on their status and equipment in accordance with
length of service for segment time flown with the Company as follows:

Effective April 1, 2002:

Captain Pay Rates ( 64 seat and larger)

Years of BONUS BONUS BONUS
Service BASE LEVEL 1 LEVEL 2 LEVEL 3
0 - 1 $ 55.50 $ 56.61 $ 57.17 $ 57.72
1 - 2 $ 56.61 $ 57.74 $ 58.31 $ 58.87
2 - 3 $ 57.74 $ 58.89 $ 59.47 $ 60.05
3 - 4 $ 59.47 $ 60.66 $ 61.25 $ 61.85
4 - 5 $ 61.26 $ 62.49 $ 63.10 $ 63.71
5 - 6 $ 63.10 $ 64.99 $ 65.62 $ 66.26
6 - 7 $ 64.99 $ 66.94 $ 67.59 $ 68.24
7 - 8 $ 66.94 $ 68.95 $ 69.62 $ 70.29
8 - 9 $ 68.95 $ 71.02 $ 71.71 $ 72.40
9 -10 $ 71.02 $ 73.15 $ 73.86 $ 74.57
10-11 $ 73.15 $ 75.34 $ 76.08 $ 76.81
11-12 $ 75.34 $ 77.60 $ 78.35 $ 79.11
12-13 $ 77.60 $ 79.93 $ 80.70 $ 81.48
13-14 $ 79.93 $ 82.33 $ 83.13 $ 83.93
14-15 $ 81.53 $ 83.98 $ 84.79 $ 85.61
15-16 $ 83.16 $ 86.49 $ 88.15 $ 89.81
16-17 $ 84.82 $ 88.21 $ 89.91 $ 91.61
18+ $ 86.52 $ 89.98 $ 91.71 $ 93.44


First Officer Pay Rates ( 64 seat and larger)

Years of BONUS BONUS BONUS
Service BASE LEVEL 1 LEVEL 2 LEVEL 3
0 - 1 $ 20.47 $ 20.88 $ 21.08 $ 21.29
1 - 2 $ 27.42 $ 27.97 $ 28.24 $ 28.52
2 - 3 $ 30.59 $ 31.20 $ 31.51 $ 31.81
3 - 4 $ 31.90 $ 32.54 $ 32.86 $ 33.18
4 - 5 $ 32.85 $ 33.51 $ 33.84 $ 34.16
5 - 6 $ 33.62 $ 34.63 $ 34.96 $ 35.30
6 - 7 $ 34.07 $ 35.09 $ 35.43 $ 35.77
7 - 8 $ 34.55 $ 35.59 $ 35.93 $ 36.28

Performance Bonus

CAPTAIN BONUS PLAN
Years Years Years
1-5 6-15 16+

Bonus Level 1 (0 -4.9% Margin) 2% 3% 4%
Bonus Level 2 (5% - 11.9% Margin) 3% 4% 6%
Bonus Level 3 (Over 12% Margin) 4% 5% 8%

FIRST OFFICER BONUS PLAN
Years Years
1-5 6+

Bonus Level 1 (0 -5.99% Margin) 2% 3%
Bonus Level 2 (6% - 11.99% Margin) 3% 4%
Bonus Level 3 (Over 12% Margin) 4% 5%

Pilots are eligible for performance bonuses as set forth above. Bonuses shall be paid so long as the
Company is profitable on a quarterly basis. Margin shall be defined as pretax operating income less
interest expense associated with aircraft leases and excludes any extra ordinary gain or loss, divided by
revenue. This Calculation shall be the same as that used to compute performance bonuses for the
Chairman and President.

Stock Options

Upon becoming Captain, a pilot shall be issued 600 options to purchase Company stock which
shall vest evenly over three (3) years.

Pilots flying on Company holidays shall receive 1.5 times the applicable rates set forth above.

Company holidays are:
New Years Day (Jan. 1st)
Veterans Day
Memorial Day Thanksgiving
Independence Day Christmas (Dec. 25th)

Pilots flying on days off will receive 1.5 the rates set forth above.

Cancellation Pay

So long as the controllable (mechanical, aircraft damage, crew shortages, etc.) completion factor
is above 97.5% each bid period the Company will pay for all controllable cancellations
retroactively following the end of each month. For example, if the bid period February 1 to
February 28 has a controllable cancellation rate of 99.5% then all pilots would receive the value
of flights cancelled for controllable reasons during February in their March wage payment.
A Captain holding a First Officer’s bid will be paid at Captain’s rates when flying as Captain.
Upon advancing from one pay step to the next, a Pilot will receive the increased rate at the
beginning of the pay period nearest the anniversary date. A Captain holding a line of flight as a
Captain who is requested by the Company to fly as a First Officer will be paid at Captain rates.
 
What's the difference between level 1 through 4?

Is level 1 a beginner scab who knows nothing about what he or she is doing when they join
Freedumb air? Is level 4 the ultimate scab who has crossed the picket line whenever he could to hose his "friends" and will gladly drag the payscales down for the regional airline industry?
 
Jeepman said:
What's the difference between level 1 through 4?

Is level 1 a beginner scab who knows nothing about what he or she is doing when they join
Freedumb air? Is level 4 the ultimate scab who has crossed the picket line whenever he could to hose his "friends" and will gladly drag the payscales down for the regional airline industry?

No it's based on how many short cuts you take. Funny post!

Level 1 - Instructed for free
Level 2 - Paid for training
Level 3 - Plead ignorance because you just want to fly
Level 4 - Crossed picket line

Here come the flames....

AZPilot
 
That pay totally sucks. I knew it was bad but if they go to work flying a 700 for that, they are screwing every 50 seater pilot that is in contract negotiations. That pay scale, even on the fourth level is worse than most 50 seater scales like Comair, ACA, Skywest, and Air Wisconsin's. Sorry those are the only ones I have seen the pay scales on. What about a trip and duty rig? Do these pilots even realize how bad they are selling everyone out? The guys at the majors should really be upset. This is a prime example of cheap labor taking the jobs from the majors. I figure the more the regional guys make the more major jobs will be saved due to the replacement labour not being so cheap.
 
That's better pay than the screaming chicken. Nobody can drag down pay better than AMR, ALPA and the G.D. arbitrators.

Criticize scabdom all you want, (for the record I hate scabs) but ALPA's "help" at Eagle is worse.
 
mackinhoes said:
That's better pay than the screaming chicken. Nobody can drag down pay better than AMR, ALPA and the G.D. arbitrators.

Criticize scabdom all you want, (for the record I hate scabs) but ALPA's "help" at Eagle is worse.

No, your MEC sucks, ALPA national isn't holding a gun to your head. If you have a problem with union representation it should to be taken up with with your LEC officers. They are the one's contrary to Eagle folk lore that runs the show.

If you guys hate ALPA so much, I'm sure APA would love to have you.
 
RAPA

Capt. Jim

When I was at Eagle we voted for one union to represent us. there were four Eagles at that time represented by 3 unions, APA, ALPA, and RAPA (Regional Pilots Assn. - Wings West). I worked for Executive and voted for RAPA. I thought they would represent the regional better than ALPA and APA had a conflict of interest representing the Eagle.

APA was representing Flagship in the mid 1990s and was preparing for a strike, but pulled a "Bay-of-pigs" after Mr. Crandall threatend to close BNA and RDU for the AA pilots if the APA authorized a striked. At Executive, there were only 6 votes out of nearly 300 pilots for the APA. ALPA got the vote, but will never provide proper representation for the regional guys. What was it the Comair guy said,"why don't you just call us airline pilots?"!

Blame the LEC all you want, but the lack of support and guidance from ALPA National is the real problem.
 
Re: RAPA

Jeff Helgeson said:
Capt. Jim

Blame the LEC all you want, but the lack of support and guidance from ALPA National is the real problem.

The LEC's and MEC are the leaders, until that is realised, blame will continue be assesed in the wrong direction. Guidence, advice and recourses are availible, but leadership comes from LEC's and the MEC, not national.
 
AWAC, Comair, and ACA are all ALPA and dont seem to have the same problems as Eagle. Think about it. You are right about ALPA not representing the regionals properly but that is in comparison to the majors. Your MEC/LEC might be the problem. Who signs a 16 year contract?
 

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