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BeachBum

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This is classic.

Strange Note Brings Plane Back to Gate at Reagan
Updated: Thursday, Feb. 6, 2003 - 6:17 PM EST.


WASHINGTON - A bizarre note a passenger gave to a flight attendant forced a plane to return to the gate at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport on Thursday.
ATA Flight 295 to Chicago's Midway Airport had just pushed back and was taxiing toward the runway when a man passed the note - written on a napkin - which contained three words: fast, neat, average.

ATA spokeswoman Angela Thomas said the man asked that the note be given to the pilot, and it was. But the pilot had no idea what it meant, and a decision was made to return the plane with its 90 passengers and crew of six to the gate.

Metropolitan Washington Airports Authority Police were waiting and took the unidentified man into custody. After several hours of questioning and background checks, he was released, an MWAA spokeswoman said.

According to Thomas, the man claims to be an Air Force Academy cadet, and said the message on his note would have been understood by an Air Force pilot. The ATA pilot does not have military experience.

Several retired and current Air Force officers, including some with experience at the Air Force Academy, said they were unfamiliar with the term or its significance.

The flight eventually left one hour 15 minutes late, and arrived in Chicago without further incident.

Because of its proximity to the nation's capital, National was the last major airport to reopen following the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. Although commercial service was gradually restored, general aviation remains suspended.

(Copyright 2003 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)

Note: This guy wasn't really a cadet. Just a cadet's neightbor.
 
Whatta...

...geek! Like I would want to think I was 'cool' by writing that note.

That being said, any USAFA grad knows what the heck 'fast, neat, average' means...I still remember that &%@&^$# form!

FastCargo
 
What's worse?

I'm trying to figure out what makes him more of a doofus:

1) Being a "poser" and using a USAFA term (to upgrade to 1st class?) when his only affiliation is being a neighbor to a cadet (although he apparently first said he was a cadet, which is an obvious, blatant lie, as most cadets will never volunteer info as to being a cadet, especially when the opposite sex is involved, but I digress), or

b) Passing a cryptic note at one of the more security-anal and paranoid airports/locations in the U.S, in a moving aerospace vehicle.

I wonder if the "former and current AF officers with AF Academy experience" actually had anything to do with the cadets. Anyway, now I can look forward to about a week's worth of Academy flashback nightmares (kind of like Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder) since I've spent too much time thinking about this doofus.

Peace,
DP
 
OK I'll bite, ............what does it mean????

I lived on a few Navy bases, but not AirForce, so I wouldnt know.
 
Here's an explanation

Not being an Academy guy myself, I had to look this one up.
This isn't an Air Force-wide thing, LR25, it's about one of those things an academy grad would say, "you just wouldn't understand." Whatever.

Oh, the games they play...

Strange note forces Washington, D.C. plane back to gate

WASHINGTON (AP) — A cryptic note a passenger gave to a flight attendant led the pilot to return to the gate at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport on Thursday.

ATA Flight 295 to Chicago's Midway Airport was taxiing toward the runway when a man passed the note — written on a napkin — which contained three words: "fast, neat, average."

Airline spokeswoman Angela Thomas said the man asked that the note be given to the pilot. But the pilot had no idea what it meant.

Airport police took the man into custody, but after several hours of questioning and background checks he was released, an airport spokeswoman said. The man was not identified. The flight left one hour 15 minutes late, and arrived in Chicago without further incident.

According to Thomas, the man initially claimed to be an Air Force Academy cadet, and said the message on his note would have been understood by an Air Force pilot. The ATA pilot did not have military experience.

Air Force Academy spokesman Lt. Greg Hignite said airline officials told him the man later said he was a neighbor of a cadet who attends the academy in Colorado Springs, Colo.

Air Force spokesman Capt. Peter Kerr said the expression is, in fact, part of academy lore and originates from a form that cadets must fill out to rate the quality of food and service at the campus dining hall. If the meal and service are adequate, the standard responses are "fast-neat-average, friendly-good-good."

According to legend, Kerr said, the same words were used during the Vietnam War as a challenge and response during rescue attempts in which a downed pilot was an academy graduate.

Before Sept. 11, 2001, cadets and graduates on commercial flights would sometimes write "fast-neat-average" on a napkin and ask a flight attendant to give it to the cockpit crew. The code words often brought an invitation to tour the cockpit or ride in the jump seat, Kerr said.

"It's certainly a regrettable misunderstanding, but it's something that cadets would normally do," Kerr said. "It is a common practice, or at least it was."
 
I know the answer on this one, but HATE to spill the beans.

Zulu, Eagleflip...any zoomies...care to enlighten them or is this close hold?
 
I was driving through the Holland Tunnel last night on my way home when WCBS news carried the story. At the very end of the report, the announcer said what was on the note, "Fast, Neat, Average", and stated his confusion over what those words could possibly mean.

I started to laugh so hard, I almost crashed into the side of the tunnel.


Albie, definitely not close hold. I've heard stories in the past (pre-9/11) about cadets passing a note to the cockpit with the words. But, I've never actually met anyone whe has done it (or admitted to doing it).

At best, it is a very nerdy thing to do -- especially for a non-cadet.

By the way, if memory serves, it was the USAFA Form O-96, and the correct responses were "Fast, Neat, Average, Friendly, Good, Good".

Some things you never forget.
 
NOOOO....

...not the Form O-96!! Please, not that....!

Woke up my crashpad roomies from laughing....

Fly safe!

FastCargo
 
What will the military folks ever do with us civillians??????

Oh well, some has't to be underpriveledged.
 

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