I'm just posting this to have you guys dissect a situation...I have zero support at work from another CFI for reasonsI'll get into.
I'm 23 and instructing at a lazy Part 61 school, 99% PPL students. There is another instructor here my age, doing the same thing. We both have a variety of students, and this tale is to do with 2 16 y/o students we each have. My student only has about 3 hours of solo time, and the other CFI's student has about 30 (dad owns a plane). My fellow CFI lets his teenage student take the plane up whenever he wants, with or without endorsement. He's also extraordinarily "casual" with regards to many other habits (flying VFR into IMC, using his cell phone while teaching), but that is another story.
Anyway, so my teenage student and the other CFI's teenage student decide to do formation flying on a 50ft low approach at an uncontrolled field. The airport manager called us and warned us he was going to get them violated if I didn't talk to them. When my student returned, I confronted him and forcefully told him off ("I'm disappointed at your decions making process" etc etc etc) and subsequently suspended his solo endorsement. The other CFI talked to his student and casually scolded him, but nothing further. His reaction to his student ruins my credibility and makes me look way too anal. Part of my dilemma is also that I'm not that much older than these guys and yet I have to come across as almost parental, and I must admit I'm not comfortable with it.
Part of this problem is also dealing the fact that these 2 guys are 16 and are inexplicably cocky with their whole 35 hours of PIC between them.
I'm not even sure what I'm looking for here, but these questions come to mind...Did I overract? Is it my place to scold the other CFI's student? Should I confront this other CFI (he's a good friend away from the airport)? Has anyone had to deal with renegade teenage students (who own their own plane)?
Thanks for hearing me rant. Happy 4th.
I'm 23 and instructing at a lazy Part 61 school, 99% PPL students. There is another instructor here my age, doing the same thing. We both have a variety of students, and this tale is to do with 2 16 y/o students we each have. My student only has about 3 hours of solo time, and the other CFI's student has about 30 (dad owns a plane). My fellow CFI lets his teenage student take the plane up whenever he wants, with or without endorsement. He's also extraordinarily "casual" with regards to many other habits (flying VFR into IMC, using his cell phone while teaching), but that is another story.
Anyway, so my teenage student and the other CFI's teenage student decide to do formation flying on a 50ft low approach at an uncontrolled field. The airport manager called us and warned us he was going to get them violated if I didn't talk to them. When my student returned, I confronted him and forcefully told him off ("I'm disappointed at your decions making process" etc etc etc) and subsequently suspended his solo endorsement. The other CFI talked to his student and casually scolded him, but nothing further. His reaction to his student ruins my credibility and makes me look way too anal. Part of my dilemma is also that I'm not that much older than these guys and yet I have to come across as almost parental, and I must admit I'm not comfortable with it.
Part of this problem is also dealing the fact that these 2 guys are 16 and are inexplicably cocky with their whole 35 hours of PIC between them.
I'm not even sure what I'm looking for here, but these questions come to mind...Did I overract? Is it my place to scold the other CFI's student? Should I confront this other CFI (he's a good friend away from the airport)? Has anyone had to deal with renegade teenage students (who own their own plane)?
Thanks for hearing me rant. Happy 4th.