Colgan 3407 Down in Buffalo

[WSurf]

That is correct. Media released crew names this morning:

- Captain Marvin Renslow joined Colgan on September 9, 2005. Captain Renslow had flown 3,379 hours with Colgan Air.
- First Officer Rebecca Shaw joined Colgan on January 16, 2008. Ms. Shaw had flown 2,244 hours with Colgan Air.
- Flight Attendant Matilda Quintero joined Colgan on May 28, 2008.
- Flight Attendant Donna Prisco joined Colgan on May 28, 2008.
- Captain Joseph Zuffoletto, an off-duty crewmember aboard flight 3407, joined Colgan on September 19, 2005.

Sounds like a pretty experienced crew.

God Rest there souls.

 

[flyboyike]

Icing played a role in the crash? opinions?

Just looked at the metar for buf....blowing snow and mist.....

KBUF 130505Z COR 25012KT 4SM -SN BR BKN008 BKN015 OVC021 01/00 A2983 RMK AO2 CIG 005V011 P0000

Pretty typical for BUF in the winter.

 

[WSurf]

Is the ATC tape out already?

Go to first post.

 

[ultrarunner]

Sounds like a pretty experienced crew.

God Rest there souls.

Looks like the two captains on board likely went through training together, based on their DOH.

 

[Abernathy]

- First Officer Rebecca Shaw joined Colgan on January 16, 2008. Ms. Shaw had flown 2,244 hours with Colgan Air.

That doesn't sound right.

 

[Erlanger]

Very true. Plus the circumstances point to it. The sudden crash, everything normal it seems, nose down attitude for crash, etc.

And with the autopilot on, it would'nt be easy to notice an oncoming stall either.

 

[Broke in CVG]

That doesn't sound right.

It's not. I have also seen reported that she had 244 hrs with Colgan. As well both CA listed 3 years and 3300+ hrs with Colgan, which is also not possible per FARs.

Per CNN: "The visibility at BUF at the time was 3mph." That seems way too slow to land, shouldn't it be closer to the speed of light?

You guys know the media. After all, why do we have the NTSB, when we have CNN?

 

[Papa Woody]

Non-pilot witnesses are worthless. They don't know what "normal" is and what isn't. Most are just making stuff up to be on tv.

On eyewitness said "the pilot was leaning out the window yelling at people to get out of the way."

 

[Broke in CVG]

On eyewitness said "the pilot was leaning out the window yelling at people to get out of the way."

That's what I would be doing....

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Those are probably total times in which case I'd say it wasn't an experienced crew by any stretch.