But Dave will leave if we vote in a union....

[aewanabe]

YIP, although you and I fundamentally disagree on lots, I agree the degree and flying don't have much to do with each other.

I also think you typically present yourself with decent grammar and enunciation, which makes people more likely to at least listen to your arguments. The whole excuse that grammar and presentation are not germaine to flying undermines the profession and helps portray us as narrowly-focused technocrats.

 

[Splert]

We had a plane land with parking brake on and the company didn't fire them. They got retrained and are back on the line.

Did you call the CA up and talk about the process he went though?

No!

Then you have no idea what went on. You are just reading the last page of the book.

Both crew members of 262 are even more solid ALPA supporters after the incident not less.

Holland McKnight represented their interest right up until the point it incremented the airline and then they punted. That is not a pilot advocate.

 

[Splert]

As for job protection, it says in my contract that if I get furloughed the company will continue to pay my salary until my contract runs out.

It does not say that.

Cowboy is misleading the readers of this forum.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Who are you to judge what someone takes a job for when they are unemployed, they have an entirely different prospective what is a good job. It is up to me to prove to my employer that I am worth more than he is presently paying me, if the employer can not figure that out then you go to the next job. What would be the difference between having a pension and a wife making 40K+ in determining what job you take?

Because it drives down wages for everyone else.... which I explained in my reply which you cut out of your response....

Basically what you are saying is SCAB justification. And you have no problem with ANY one coming into your worplace and telling your boss that they will work for wages less than you.....

Funny how you enjoy the socialist protections of the US govt/DoD for a steady paycheck, "no cost" healthcare, "free" education and a pension... all exclusive from market forces... and then with that pension, education and healthcare (social safety net) you gladly enter the "free market" and undercut anyone and everyone else..... uke:

All while your right wing politics crush fellow Americans in their pursuit to get the same social safety net as you... free education, a pension, and free healthcare.

No not every American could and should join the military. First off the military doesn't need 305M people. Glad you got to go bomb brown people in SE asia but it was an illegal war. (what do you think about the LBJ tapes calling Nixon treasonist for negotiation with the Vietnamese?) And that is what we have today... illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. So what you are saying is... in a free society and country such as America, you have to be willing to kill brown people in third world countries in order to get an education, healthcare and pension such as you did....

How's this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-dorlester/guaranteed-health-care-in_b_280528.html?ref=fb&src=sp

You'd better sit down, folks.
Article 31 of the Iraqi Constitution, drafted by your right-wing Bushies in 2005 and ratified by the Iraqi people, includes state-guaranteed (single payer) healthcare for life for every Iraqi citizen.
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[pilotyip]

Because it drives down wages for everyone else.... which I explained in my reply which you cut out of your response....

Basically what you are saying is SCAB justification. And you have no problem with ANY one coming into your worplace and telling your boss that they will work for wages less than you.....Funny how you enjoy the socialist protections of the US govt/DoD for a No not every American could and should join the military. First off the military doesn't need 305M people. Glad you got to go bomb brown people in SE asia but it was an illegal war. And that is what we have today... illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. So what you are saying is... in a free society and country such as America, you have to be willing to kill brown people in third world countries in order to get an education, healthcare and pension such as you did....

Oh boy, this is funny, get this because I served in the military according to Rez, I am a SCAB, Isn't that a broad use of that word. And no we kill people in 3rd world countries to ensure we have cheap oil so the airlines can stay in busienss at their present level. The drive to ensure cheap oil makes us a slave to OPEC, makes us engage in wars to ensure we continue to have access to cheap oil, sends $XXXB's to people who do not really like and use the money to fund guys doing bad things to us. The only way to get away from this enslavement to OPEC is to stop buying their oil. Rez I bet you just loved it when the anti-war dems turned their backs on the people of S. Vietnam who we were trying to protect to ensure they could enjoy the same human rights that we do here in the US.

 

[cowboy55]

Cowboy, If you're not on reserve you have very little idea about the quality of life we have already lost. Unilaterally, with the company taking the input of the PVC and then disregarding it completely. Or perhaps you haven't had the pleasure of staying in the new BUF hotel with non-functioning door locks and room invasions. Another example of C.S. taking the Hotel Committee's recommendations and using them for Toilet Paper.

And for the love of Christ, please learn the lose/loose and your/you're grammatical distinctions. It's not that hard; basic high-school level English stuff. It reflects poorly on our work group when we don't even aspire to attain basic levels of communication competence. Of course, JetBlue doesn't require a degree...

By the way, you know for a fact that the SMF crew applied the parking brake do you? Are you in our "crack" (or crackpot) Flight Safety department? Or did they accidentally grab the rudder trim? Or was there a malfunction in the system? Great to have guys like you backing your fellow airmen.

You might also like to know why the Captain of 292 (the LAX nose-gear flight) is voting for ALPA. Do you think he's a screw-up too?

LOL. Not everyone types on their computer. My Droid sometimes messes the spelling up with auto spell.

 

[pilotyip]

standard rsponse

YIP, although you and I fundamentally disagree on lots, I agree the degree and flying don't have much to do with each other.

I also think you typically present yourself with decent grammar and enunciation, which makes people more likely to at least listen to your arguments. The whole excuse that grammar and presentation are not germaine to flying undermines the profession and helps portray us as narrowly-focused technocrats.

a Anytime any one gets their panties in a wad because of English instead of content, I try to focus on how it does not make a big difference how the message is conveyed, and if sentences run on, so what. Stick to exchanging ideas, thoughts, and experiences is what it is all about. If I wanted a critique on my writing, I would take freshman English again.

 

[cowboy55]

It does not say that.

Cowboy is misleading the readers of this forum.

Splert read your contract. Under Section 8. JOB SECURITY!!!!!!!!!!!! You have no clue what the truth is. Get your facts together before you call me a liar. Just goes to show your ALPA facts are probably inaccurate as well.

 

[Splert]

Splert read your contract. Under Section 8. JOB SECURITY!!!!!!!!!!!!.

I have. You said the PEA says the following: "it says in my contract that if I get furloughed the company will continue to pay my salary until my contract runs out"

It doesn't say anthing close to that and you are reading something into the language that isn't there and are trying to confuse the readers of the forum. You are wishful reading.

Did you ever talk to the CA of 262? Did you email him?

Don't let facts get in the way of your rants!

 

[Splert]

Cowboy,

Thanks for the PM.

Again, you can't get basics facts down plus your systems knowledge is weak and that renders your opinion worthless .

I recommend a couple of hours of CPat or read the FCOM once in a while.