This is not my fight but I see managememt going for some pretty heafty salary cuts. Also they are to layoff 2400 pilots. The problem is Carty said that all this effort will keep from an immediate BK11. The indications are that unless the market really changes in the next few months travel will have dropped to the point that they will have to file no matter what. If I were an AA guy I would think long and hard before I ratified it, especially if I am in the last 2400 and am going to get laid off anyway.