What is the designation for an Arrow?

AWACoff

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I flew an Archer today with the tapered wing. What is the designation for that....PA28? Thanks.
 

Andy Neill

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Piper shows both the Arrow and the Archer as PA28's. The Archer shows a slightly (0.1 ft) larger wing span.
 

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Correction PAZT is an Aztec, I am loosing my mind. They told me it would happen after age 45.
 

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Thanks. I've flown an arrow before but when I tried to bring the gear up in the archer, it wouldn't budge. PA-28R it is.
 

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It's all in the wings....

If it is an older Arrow, (with the fat, "Hershey Bar" wing, like on the Cherokee 140), it is a PA-28R-200.
The Newer ones, (with the skinny, tapered wing, like on a Warrior) it is a PA-28R-201.
If it was an Archer, (wheels no move) it was a PA-28-180.
I probably need to get out more. :)
 

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History Lesson: Piper Cherokee PA-28 series
ATC designator: Fixed gear 180 hp or less: P28A
Fixed gear 200 hp or more: P28B
Arrow 2/3/3 Turbo: P28R
Arrow 4/4 Turbo: P28T
From the ATC listing.


Piper designators: PA-28-140/ Cruiser/ Flightliner
PA-28-150/160 Cherokee
PA-28-151/161 Warrior/ Cadet
PA-28-180 later models known as Archer
PA-28-181 Archer II
PA-28R-180/200 Arrow/Arrow II
PA-28R-201 Arrow III/IV
PA-28RT-201 Arrow T-Tail
PA-28R-201T Turbo Arrow III/IV
PA-28RT-201T Turbo Arrow T-Tail
PA-28-201T Turbo Dakota
PA-28-235 Cherokee 235/ Charger
PA-28-236 Dakota
I did this from memory however I believe it to be correct. I've flown them all except the T tails, good airplanes every one.
 

bobbysamd

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Cherokee and descendants

I agree with DC9stick's geneology.

Archer would indeed be PA28-180 or 181.

Arrow is PA28R-200.
 

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DC9 - good list and I hate to be picky but:

Piper designators:
PA-28-140/ Cruiser/ Flightliner
PA-28-150/160 Cherokee
PA-28-151/161 Warrior/ Cadet(*)
PA-28-180 Cherokee 180 (later models known as Archer)
PA-28-181 Archer II (semi-tapered wings)
PA-28R-180/200 Arrow/Arrow II
PA-28R-201 Arrow III
PA-28RT-201 Arrow IV T-Tail
PA-28R-201T Turbo Arrow III
PA-28RT-201T Turbo Arrow IV T-Tail
PA-28-201T Turbo Dakota
PA-28-235 Cherokee 235/ Charger
PA-28-236 Dakota

* Cadet was a special Warrior designed for flight schools and the most rear windows normally seen on the Cherokee series were not cut out of the fuselage.

In General, if the HP value on a PA28 is increased by "1", then the aircraft was designed with semi-tapered or "laminar-flow" wings vs. the "hershey bar" wings of old. Therefore, an Archer with Hershey Bars is a PA28-180 but with semi-tapered is a PA28-181. There is no increase in HP, only a different wing design.

In your list, you were making artificial differences between Arrow IV's and T-tails - ALL Arrow IV's have T-tails and hence have the extra "T" added to the basic model value, just as a T-tail Lance is differentiated from a Saratoga.
 
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