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Nevets

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Here is a list of things gathered from Skywest pilots.





SkyWest Policy Manual/Benefit Changes

·Travel benefits- buddy passes no longer free, charged for non-rev now, lost companion passes on UAL
·Reserve- bucket system led to seniority loss; replaced a seniority-based reserve system
·PBS- implemented without pilot input or approval, vacation & training pay loss, forced flying, no control of our line pay/line numbers, no bid failure resolution
·Medical Cost Escalation- cost going up with no pilot say
·Medical benefit losses- no pilot say
·Passport Reimbursement (lost)
·Forced CRJ700/900 training
·Line pay guarantee lost to equipment changed from schedule
·Loss of Leg CX Pay-company has arbitrarily picked what they pay (weather, mechanical)
·Two 401k Admin changes with increased cost participation
·Highly compensated employee limits- limits senior pilots’ contribution to retirement
 
Here is a list of things gathered from Skywest pilots.





SkyWest Policy Manual/Benefit Changes

·Travel benefits- buddy passes no longer free, charged for non-rev now, lost companion passes on UAL
·Reserve- bucket system led to seniority loss; replaced a seniority-based reserve system
·PBS- implemented without pilot input or approval, vacation & training pay loss, forced flying, no control of our line pay/line numbers, no bid failure resolution
·Medical Cost Escalation- cost going up with no pilot say
·Medical benefit losses- no pilot say
·Passport Reimbursement (lost)
·Forced CRJ700/900 training
·Line pay guarantee lost to equipment changed from schedule
·Loss of Leg CX Pay-company has arbitrarily picked what they pay (weather, mechanical)
·Two 401k Admin changes with increased cost participation
·Highly compensated employee limits- limits senior pilots’ contribution to retirement
forced to be trained in the equipment you fly? what am i missing here???? ohhhh then we complain about the line pay guarantee for equip changes... youre right if we werent forced to fly the 700/900 then that wouldnt be an issue right? passport reimbursement? ouch!!!! what is that like $100. every 10 years? have you ever used yours for other than work? i think they should reimburse me for my atp, for that matter- that is required for the job...

others... valid but not worth the trade off for me. thanks though!
 
forced to be trained in the equipment you fly? what am i missing here???? ohhhh then we complain about the line pay guarantee for equip changes... youre right if we werent forced to fly the 700/900 then that wouldnt be an issue right? passport reimbursement? ouch!!!! what is that like $100. every 10 years? have you ever used yours for other than work? i think they should reimburse me for my atp, for that matter- that is required for the job...

others... valid but not worth the trade off for me. thanks though!

The point is that all these were taken from the pilots unilaterally. Sure, $100 dollars every ten years isn't much, but what did the pilots gain from "giving" that away? NOTHING! Its $100 today and $110 tomorrow. Pretty soon it will be something else that costs the pilots and so on. AND when you add them ALL up, it is significant. All these things, the pilots got NOTHING in return. NOTHING!

As I understand it at least.

Your very welcome.
 
Nevets- looks like this thread flopped... try another
 
Nevets- looks like this thread flopped... try another
Why dont you go back to your cushy father financed lifestyle(nintendo/kiddie porn) and leave the important stuff to the real pilots!
STFU in otherwords.
PBR
P.S. you are just a voyeur!
 
forced to be trained in the equipment you fly? what am i missing here????

Apparently you haven't been here long enough to understand the broken promises made by management on this issue. When the 700/900 first came on the property, Management/SAPA promised us that we would not be forced to fly them. I had no desire to fly either but yet I was forced to train on them. The issue here for me is but yet another broken promise.
 
Nevets- looks like this thread flopped... try another

Why don't you respond to the merits of my earlier post? This is not about flopping threads. THIS thread is about pointing out that SAPA cannot represent Skywest pilots with Skywest pilots' best interest. What is it you don't get about that?

Let me ask again, what did Skywest pilots get in return for those things "given" to management? Because if Skywest pilots were represented by ALPA, either they would have received something in return or it would have remained as it was.

So can you please respond to the merits of my point?
 
forced to be trained in the equipment you fly? what am i missing here???? ohhhh then we complain about the line pay guarantee for equip changes... youre right if we werent forced to fly the 700/900 then that wouldnt be an issue right? passport reimbursement? ouch!!!! what is that like $100. every 10 years? have you ever used yours for other than work? i think they should reimburse me for my atp, for that matter- that is required for the job...

others... valid but not worth the trade off for me. thanks though!

I don't think this thread flopped...but I do think you are uneducated. How long have you worked at Skywest?
 
If ALPA saves Skywest pilots >1.95% of health insurance cost it's worth it on that alone. Health care costs are rising FAST! Our contract has limits on how much pilots pay. This is hard to quantify since we obviously don't know what future health care costs will be, but it is very valuable.
 

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