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ALPA reaches deal with US Airways to create new RJ affiliate. Mainline furloughees to have special employment rights, special pay rates, and super seniority at all US Airways Express carriers.

On April 18th, the US Airways MEC reached an agreement with their management that would permit the operation of seventy additional RJ’s on condition that mainline furloughees be granted special employment rights and pay rates at all US Airways affiliates. The agreement specifies that:



All vacancies at US Airway’s reactivated Potomac Air will be filled by furloughed mainline pilots

50% of all vacancies created by the additional jets at any other US Airways affiliate will be filled by furloughed mainline pilots.

All furloughed pilots will be paid captain’s pay regardless of which affiliate they fly for and which position they occupy.

Under ALPA’s Constitution and Bylaws, only duly elected representatives of the US Airways Express pilots may negotiate agreements that directly affect pay, seniority, and job security of their member pilots. Yet the new mainline agreement seeks to preempt the existing labor agreements at the affiliates and grant selected pilots special employment and seniority rights not provided to other US Airways Express pilots.

As the RJDC has warned, predatory bargaining is based upon the presumption that there is nothing wrong with allowing mainline MEC’s to use the jobs and careers of “regional” pilots as bargaining capital to secure other contractual objectives. Not only are the Express pilots expected to surrender their contractual and employment rights, but also by trading away the jobs of the Express pilots, the US Airways MEC was able to avoid further mainline salary concessions. As the US Airways MEC stated in their announcement, the mainline pilots will not be polled concerning pay cap adjustments now that the small jet agreement has been reached.

In addition, not one month after ALPA’s President labeled Mesa’s CEO the next “Frank Lorenzo,” and lambasted him for creating Freedom Airlines, ALPA has created yet another “approved” alter ego airline because it served the purposes of the mainline pilots. Ironically, less than a year ago, ALPA filed grievances claiming that the creation of Potomac Air violated the alter ego prohibition in the Allegheny, PSA, and Piedmont labor agreements.

We believe the actions of the US Airways MEC not only violate the union’s Constitution, but the fact that ALPA made such efforts is the clearest indication yet that ALPA willingly ignores its legal and fiduciary obligations to its “regional” members whenever it is politically expedient to do so.


Delta management confirms that mainline scope negotiations will commence soon

On April 16th, Delta management informed the company’s investors that its second quarterly loss will trigger a mandatory re-negotiation or “reset” of Delta scope ratios. The Company’s announcement confirms the position taken by the RJDC last fall that mainline scope negotiations were all but inevitable.

Whether the prospect of mainline scope negotiations will be helpful or harmful to ASA and Comair pilots will ride squarely on ALPA’s decision whether or not to ensure that the ASA and Comair pilots are represented fairly and equally in any scope negotiations.

Through counsel, we have informed ALPA the ball is squarely in their court. If they so choose, the next round of mainline negotiations can be used to address numerous outstanding issues in a manner mutually beneficial to all concerned. However, any attempt by the Delta MEC to use jobs and livelihoods of the ASA and Comair pilots as bargaining capital would constitute yet another gross violation of ALPA’s legal obligations and, as events have already proven, would not help the ASA, Comair, or Delta mainline pilots.

Delta’s scope reset negotiations and what they mean to the ASA and Comair pilots

The “small jet” agreement at US Airways proves that when ALPA permits mainline MEC’s to unilaterally negotiate scope or flying restrictions, the interests of the “regional” members will not be protected and ill-gotten scope restrictions will be leveraged to secure other mainline contractual objectives.

From a scope perspective, the most restrictive (or harmful) element in the Delta working agreement is the System Block Hour Flying Ratio found in Section 1.E.3. This section states that Delta Connection flying may not exceed 34% of total Delta system flying in 2002 (a 2:1 ratio). The ratio means that once the limits are reached, mainline must add approximately two aircraft for every additional aircraft added to Delta Connection. Likewise, for every aircraft removed from the mainline fleet, Delta Connection must remove two.

At current flying levels, each ratio percentage equals approximately 11 RJ’s, 110 pilot positions, and more than $4 million dollars per year in pilot payroll to the Delta Connection pilots. To permit Delta Connection to operate the RJ’s for which it has firm orders, the ratios for this year, next year, and the year after must be increased approximately thirty percent to 40%, 43%, and 44% respectively.

Given management’s plans to acquire an additional 95 RJ’s in 2002 and 2003, and its plans to furlough as many as 1300 mainline pilots, it is a virtual certainty that the Delta MEC will seek to re-allocate system flying and secure special employment rights for Delta pilots at Delta’s subsidiaries—while ensuring that all other Delta Connection flying remains severely restricted.

The RJDC has been working tirelessly to educate the ASA and Comair pilots of the impending threat and to compel the union to uphold its legal obligation to treat all of members equally and without discrimination.

For additional information, please visit our web site
at www.rjdefense.com
In addition to our frequent updates, look for a detailed report on the RJDC’s actions, industry events, and our on-going litigation that will be published early next month.



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YAWN..........................................................................................

This RJDC rhetoric is getting old, stale and exceedingly boring. Here's a suggestion...when you have something new to add, wake me up.
 

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trainerjet,

Your telling me that having USAIR mainline pilots fly RJ's with different pay rates and workrules than the WO's is old news ???

I can't wait to see the pay rates because they will likely raise the compensation level for operating RJ aircraft. This will be mighty handy when ASA starts contract negotiations in June of this year.
 

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rjcap-

You're right..that part is not old news. I too, will be interested to see the rates the mainline pilots get for flying the RJs, and hopefully it will raise the bar on compensation for operating RJs.
 

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RJ's

All US Airways pilots will be paid 1st year Captain pay regardless of seat position approx. $50 per/hour.
 

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Then everyone can draw their own conclusions from that
 

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What it really means is this:

1) A USAir pilot hired at a regional under this program will receive that regional's 1st year Captain pay rate, even if the USAir pilot is hired as a First Officer.

2) FO's that come from USA will be paid more that FO's at the regional airline who are senior to them (for the same work)

3) Several small regionals who might participate in this program have minimum hourly requirements for upgrade. Therefore, newly hired pilots from USA may upgrade ahead of them and out of seniority if they happen to have more flight time.

4) Several regionals that might participate operate both jets and turboprops. If they acquire more jets under this program, 1/2 of the positions will be filled by USA pilots, thus depriving turboprop pilots at the respective airline from upgrading into the jets. This will cause the regional pilots to lose the pay that would result from the upgrade to jets.

5) Airlines may retire turboprops and replace them with jets. If so 1/2 of the pilots in the jets must come from USA. This may cause turboprop pilots at the receiving airline to become redundant and be furloughed. If not for this progrogram, the turboprop pilots would be upgraded to the new jets.

All regional carriers that might be affected have collective bargaining agreements that do NOT allow any of these procedures to take place. Those pilots are represented by ALPA.

ALPA has negotiated for USAir pilots a contract provision that violates the contracts ALPA negotiated for its regional pilot members. Thus ALPA discriminates against the regional pilots in favor of the USAir pilots. As of this date, NO regional pilot group has agreed to the USAir contract. ALPA has done this without the consent of its regional members.

The agreement permits the revival and operation of Potomac Air (a certificate owned by USAir Group), to be crewed exclusively by USAir pilots. The operation of Potomac Air violates the ALPA contracts of 3 - regional carriers owned by USAir Group.

This type of behavior by ALPA is precisely why the RJDC exists and why it is suing the ALPA.
 

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Point for Surplus 1

Surplus 1.
Your point is very well made. Thank you for your input. I observe this battle from the sidelines because my carrier doesn't have a regional partner, so my opinion doesn't really count; I've even given up reading most of the posts dealing with the matter, but your posts really adds perspective. Now if the RJDC would just replace the word JETS in its title with the word PILOTS.
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Whats going to be interesting will be the renegotiation of scope at Delta. I guarantee you that will drag on and on. All the while the rj's will continue to expand the route structure.

ALPA will have their hands full this year trying to juggle multiple negotiations and try to be all things to all people. Kinda of like a Washington politician.
 

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Don't the regional's contracts have their own negotiated scope clauses -- e.g. all flying done by the company be done by pilots under their contract provisions and their seniority list?? What are you worried about? If the company tried to insert pilots out of seniority and at rates not in accordance with the contract provisions . . . . grieve it, sue 'em, etc etc. Seems to me it would be a clear violation of your contract.

Potomac Air is more problematical. How do your scope provisions prevent that?
 

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Draginass said:
Don't the regional's contracts have their own negotiated scope clauses -- e.g. all flying done by the company be done by pilots under their contract provisions and their seniority list??
Yes, to all of the above and that is precisely why this is such a travesty. The labor union that just negotiated this USAir piece, it the very same labor union that negotiated all the provisions you mentioned in the contracts of the regional airline pilots.

In fact, it cannot be implemented unless the regional carrier that is going to hire these USAir pilots, get's its pilot groups to modify their contracts to permit it. Ironically, there own union is already pressuring them to do just that and telling them what a "good deal" it is for them because they will get "more jets".

The union is actively representing the interests of the mainline pilots at the deliberate expense of the regional pilots who are members of the union. That action violates a number of things.

This is exactly what the RJDC is suing about. You and other mainline pilots have been trying to twist the RJDC lawsuit into some sort of attempt to force integration of the seniority lists in support of your own political stance. That's your spin. Well, your spin is wrong. The lawsuit intends to force the union to adhere to its Duty of Fair Representation, which is Federal Law.

What are you worried about? If the company tried to insert pilots out of seniority and at rates not in accordance with the contract provisions . . . . grieve it, sue 'em, etc etc. Seems to me it would be a clear violation of your contract.
What am I worried about? You're unbelievable at times. Aren't you from a pilot group that cost your airline millions of dollars and yourselves a 45 million dollar fine because you didn't agree with how the Company wanted to handle the Reno integration? How come you didn't grieve it?

What's even worse, is that this is being done by the ALPA to regional member pilots of the ALPA. Who's going to greive it for us? The same union that's doing it to us? It's not the Company doing this, it's the union!

Potomac Air is more problematical. How do your scope provisions prevent that?
Preblematical? Congratulations, you've won the understatement award. Yes, the scope provisions of ALG and PDT (maybe PSA) prohibit the formation of Potomac. When it was originally created, as a part of the failed UAL/AAA merger, those airlines grieved it. Potomac was shut down before the grievance was settled and so it became moot. Now, the same union that was greiving it, has signed an LOA that would allow it to revive, in direct violation of the contracts of the wholly owned regionals at USAir Group.

Once again, ALPA represents the mainline pilot while failing to represent the regional pilot.

From what I hear, the regional pilots at ALG, PDT, PSA (who opposed the RJDC as radical) have now retained the same attorney that represents the RJDC, to defend their interests against ALPA.

Keep your head it the sand long enough and someone will kick your butt or worse. It is time regional pilots force this union to do what the law requires, i.e., represent them.
 

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surplus1 said:


It is time regional pilots force this union to do what the law requires, i.e., represent them.
If you and your RJDC comrades feel so strongly, why not just break off from ALPA and form your own union to correct these terrible injustices bestowed on you?

You insinuate that there are an army of guys supporting your cause, so it shouldn't be a problem.
 

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Re: Point for Surplus 1

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Surplus 1.
Your point is very well made. Thank you for your input. I observe this battle from the sidelines because my carrier doesn't have a regional partner, so my opinion doesn't really count; I've even given up reading most of the posts dealing with the matter, but your posts really adds perspective. Now if the RJDC would just replace the word JETS in its title with the word PILOTS.
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Lets see, DC9's in the profile but no regional partner. Spirit maybe?

Thanks for your thoughts but I don't agree that the RJDC should change its name. If there were no RJs, ALPA would not be doing what it is. The agenda of the ALPA is intent on stopping the RJ. So intent that ALPA is willing to violate its own rules and its DFR to the regional pilots in order to pursue that agenda. The name is not misplaced.

The purpose of the litigation is to force the union to carry out its duty of fair representation to ALL its members. Not just to mainline pilots. In my opinion that duty has been violated already and continues to be violated over and over again. It has to stop.

Mainline pilots would do well to stop trying to "spin" the reasons for the litigation into a campaign that serves their interest at the expense of the rest of us. They have accused the RJDC of doing everything under the sun, while deliberately refuseing to acknowledge what they know it is really trying to do.

Why? Simple; the agenda of ALPA is what it is because that agenda is set exclusively by mainline pilots. They know that what they are doing is wrong, but they want to do it anyway. The RJDC is to date the only voice with the courage to say NO.

Regional pilots need to get there heads out of the sand too and support the effort to defend their rights.
 

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quote:
Originally posted by Boeingman

If you and your RJDC comrades feel so strongly, why not just break off from ALPA and form your own union to correct these terrible injustices bestowed on you?

You insinuate that there are an army of guys supporting your cause, so it shouldn't be a problem

That's exactly the problem. There is no "army of guys" supporting their cause. Just an extremely vocal few attempting to use the courts to gain what they could never gain on their own.
 

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Boeingman said:


If you and your RJDC comrades feel so strongly, why not just break off from ALPA and form your own union to correct these terrible injustices bestowed on you?

You insinuate that there are an army of guys supporting your cause, so it shouldn't be a problem.
Leaving the union would not be much of a problem in the mechanics. That's not the answer.

Leaving the union would correct nothing. I would simply leave it to continue to do what it shouldn't be doing.

Running off to Canada because you didn't agree with a senseless war was not a good course of action either. Same difference.
 

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trainerjet said:
Just an extremely vocal few attempting to use the courts to gain what they could never gain on their own.
So, just what is it that you think we're trying to gain that we can't get on our own? Would it be a "mainline job" by any chance?

If you really think that obtaining fair representation is evil, I feel sorry for you.

If you feel that your own propaganda about what we supposedly want is real, have the courage of your convictions and don't hide them behind inuendo.
 

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It seems awfully interesting to me that Duane Woerth feels that Freedom Air is a Frank Lorenzo type operation, but he seems to have no problem with Potomac Air. If anyone feels this is fair and legal, please enlighten me as to why. I think it only depends on who gets hurt.
 

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I guess the only difference between Freedom Air and Potomac is:

Potomac will be represented by ALPA and

Freedom Air won't!

That's a pretty big difference.
 

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Scope is dead, along with any airline that lets these mainline clowns run their business.

Have a nice day:rolleyes:
 

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No, not really the case here. Granted, it seems that being on furlough is a lofty career goal for myself, and ultimatlely coming back to a job flying RJ's for $50 an hour, through a scam set up by my union brothers to destroy careers of those at the regionals, I think that I'll try anyway. Ok with you?
 
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