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NJA TA in principal reached!!!

D_G

Well-known member
A simple 45% raise would have satisfied most enough to vote yes, still would have came up short of average airline pay, but would have been acceptable to most to get a yes vote with the company crying about how it cant pay professional pilot pay to its pilots. Major fail here. What they offered doesnt even bring us up to Spirit pay.
 
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wacoflyr

Charter member of MAPA
From the outside: Sounds like the union agreed to eat their young. Wish I could say I was surprised, but hey, it's the American Way. See what I did there? American, as in APA?
 
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NachoMamma

Well-known member
It is a flagrant insult and a major slap in the face to the pilots. What is of greater concern is that our NC endorsed it...this reeks of 2004 when we saw the first POSTA. On top of that, our FO's have been royally sold out (more so than everyone else). If you're junior to approx number 1615, congrats...you'll be downgraded immediately following ratification (that includes little BV). Vote accordingly.
 

D_G

Well-known member
If this is ratified there will be several hundred 10 year first officers making less than $100,000. A ten year pilot is more than a $100,000. pilot at the best of the best. We Dont Accept Crumbs
 
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D_G

Well-known member
Its nice to see several hundred highly pissed off pilots with red NO stamps as avaters and only 2 or 3 defending this posta. Gives me a good feeling this will be shot down quick.
 

imacdog

Well-known member
There are enough cheerleaders (guess which seat they sit in) and people who are disengaged that this could very well pass by a low percentage.
 
Yep, m and m pickerupper.. clean turds out of toilet person.. flight attendant.. and add pilot to that list.. Adios, just not worth it. First Officers will jump ship faster than the company can hire and train, captains downgraded.. it will be a great place to fly.. way to go Netjets.
 
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It could be a great place to work... it could be.... instead its going to become like the regionals.. no pilots.. the rich will be stuck trying to get somewhere. So simple to fix and make it a great place again
 

jetlag7

Well-known member
It could be a great place to work... it could be.... instead its going to become like the regionals.. no pilots.. the rich will be stuck trying to get somewhere. So simple to fix and make it a great place again
Never had to load bags or wipe "rich kid" piss off a toilet seat when I worked for a regional.... this job is worse than a regional.
 

BentOver

Well-known member
Im confused, the richest man in the world is broke and cant pay his pilot
The richest, or top 3, doesn't pay $hit... It's NJA that pays..not WB, not BHK...so many say that WB can afford NJASAP's demands.. It has nothing to do with WB's deep pockets. It has everything to do with the fact that NJA pilots are already the highest paid FRACTIONAL pilots by a good amount. And then demanded to be paid $100k more than the next guy.

Unfortunately NJA pilots want to be included with the Legacies as their peer group. It just doesn't work that way. No amount of lav servicing, bag throwing, cabin cleaning complaining will change that. Remember who the audience is. Non aviation professionals who don't understand the differences.

Striking may be the only real option of getting close to what you want. And that is a risky option given the headaches WB has already suffered from this small part of his empire.
 

captain007

Well-known member
This POSTA is embarrassing. Big NO vote from me and many others. Can't wait to see this turned downed.

Good Luck you us all.
 

hawkerfun

Active member
Do tell me which airline gets free HEALTH INSURANCE??? You don't have to commute to work. That SUCKS when you don't live in your domicile. You can live in Eagle, CO and the COMPANY will get you to work. You are envious of Wal-Mart's pilots wages. The have to pay for their own health insurance. Some idiot wrote that affordable care was $365 a month. that is if you make $30,000 a year. you will pay more than that if you have a family and make 6 figures. The pilots at NetJets are such whiners on the NJASAP site I want to scream.
 

ExecJetCA

Well-known member
Our biggest problem is that we have pilots that whine like babies and have no mathematical skills.

7&7 SIC pay increases 44.89% over the five-year contract with increases if it?s extended the full 8 years, but I will only supply the first 5 for comparison.

$81,081 Current 10 year SIC

$117,480 at year 15

7&7 PIC pay increases 24.61% over the five-year contract with increases if it?s extended the full 8 years, but I will only supply the first 5 for comparison. PIC?s also get a 4% bonus on their yearly base salary upon maxing out the pay scale, but is not included here.

$136,846 Current 14 year PIC

$172,524 at year 19

18 day SIC pay increases 45.3% over the five-year contract with increases if it?s extended the full 8 years, but I will only supply the first 5 for comparison.

$98,635 Current 10 year SIC

$143,326 at year 15

18 day PIC pay increases 26.59% over the five-year contract with increases if it?s extended the full 8 years, but I will only supply the first 5 for comparison. PIC?s also get a 4% bonus on their yearly base salary upon maxing out the pay scale. But is not included here.

$166,473 Current 14 year PIC

$210,749 at year 19

401k match from the company over the first five years will increase by 46.6%. If the contract is extended for three years, then the company match will increased to a 54.6%over the remaining three years.

Seniority issues were fixed as well as some other issues. Some how SIC?s think they were thrown under the bus as well as this is a worthless TA?
 
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