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NetJets Pilots Get TA

GE6108A

Member
NetJets pilots engaged in a mid-term bargaining effort and got a Tentative Agreement that includes;
-Increases in 401(k) match to 63% over the life of the Agreement
-Creates a Non-Discretionary Contribution 401(k) Mechanism which allows additional funds to be added outside of the 2019 $19,000 IRS Limit
-Keeps Company Paid Health Insurance at Current Level
-Base Pay Increases
-New Flight & Duty Pay Program that pays per tour - if a pilot flies over 12.1 hours in a tour any additional hours flown are paid at $118/flight hour
-Night Flight & Duty Pay Override of $50/hour
All current OT provisions still apply and compound
-Signing Bonus of $150 per month/service up to $30,000
 

CRAWDADDY

Well-known member
Everyone is just waiting for the other shoe to drop.
This has been the pattern here after every contract. We get “all that there is” and then a couple years later the company throws more at us. I’m composing an open letter of apology to Local 284, the Fab5, and both sides on the Recall Group. Seems NJI had the best union of any fractional.
At least now, if you want some of this money, you’re gonna have to fly for it. Previously flying had very little to do with how much you made.
 

Freight Dawg

What can Brown do for you
Everyone is just waiting for the other shoe to drop.
This has been the pattern here after every contract. We get “all that there is” and then a couple years later the company throws more at us. I’m composing an open letter of apology to Local 284, the Fab5, and both sides on the Recall Group. Seems NJI had the best union of any fractional.
At least now, if you want some of this money, you’re gonna have to fly for it. Previously flying had very little to do with how much you made.
Apology letter? NJI Union? You work at NetJets? All the guys I talk to there seem to like it. Imagine having to work to be paid, hope you have no aspirations of going to a 121 gig.
 

CRAWDADDY

Well-known member
What’s not to like? Do you see any concessions from the pilot group?

And finally, it works toward fixing the poultry excrement system we have now where those who fly the least get paid the most.

As for NJI’s union; that was sarcasm. They were less productive than the A side but were paid more and mulcted the company of millions for their own stomachs and liquid entertainment. Meanwhile, we had guys terminated over unauthorized single digit charges on their company credit card.
 

Hogprint

If you aint Cav...
Apology letter? NJI Union? You work at NetJets? All the guys I talk to there seem to like it. Imagine having to work to be paid, hope you have no aspirations of going to a 121 gig.
What’s not to like? Do you see any concessions from the pilot group?

And finally, it works toward fixing the poultry excrement system we have now where those who fly the least get paid the most.

As for NJI’s union; that was sarcasm. They were less productive than the A side but were paid more and mulcted the company of millions for their own stomachs and liquid entertainment. Meanwhile, we had guys terminated over unauthorized single digit charges on their company credit card.
It passed w around 82% FD, so most everyone liked it. The signing bonus dangled right before Christmas didn’t hurt either.

CD, is spot on! The “I” side had the best gig going...while it lasted. Until our hostile takeover ;)
 

Pervis

Well-known member
Eight-two percent of those who actually bothered to vote.
Those others are on their way to SWA and using their bonus for the type rating.
Over 90% of eligible voters cast their ballot, and over 80% voted in favor. Big numbers by any comparison.
 

CALRepublic

Well-known member
i voted yes (for several reasons)

but regardless of how you voted, i think we all can agree that this gets everybody pulling in the same direction
 

realityman

Well-known member
It's a good package. Not perfect, but good nonetheless.

How's that old saying go? You could vote in a package that only makes us work on Wednesdays and pays $1 million, and there'd still be a few who'd say, "Yeah, but EVERY Wednesday?!".

It's actually supposed to be about QOL, not money. It's supposed to incentivize the company to schedule more evenly and reduce unnecessary fatiguing scheduling (such as the dreaded 0400 show for the 1000 go time). Some are already criticising that it hasn't changed QOL at all. I can't argue that too much, but it's only been a few weeks since we signed the agreement. This is Netjets. The wheels of change turn slowly. Very slowly. Personally, I'm giving them AT LEAST six months before I pass judgement on whether QOL has changed at all, one way or the other.

Meanwhile, I'm making MORE money for the exact same work I was doing before the agreement, putting more money in my 401K beyond the standard amounts, and generally enjoying the ride.

I do think a few people's expectations are a bit unrealistic. Some are looking for very large changes in QOL. I don't see that happening, nor do I think that's what this agreement was structured to do. Some people seem to think the agreement should net us 8-hour duty days, max, or something similar and if it doesn't do that then it's a failure. However, I think the changes will be more subtle, but impactful. For example, I'm on the CC76 schedule. It allows the company to "borrow" days from another month and schedule me up to 21 days in one month. Those months suck even though I ultimately end up with a shorter month later. But they use that option as often as they can right now. Hypothetically, what if this agreement causes more efficient, and smarter, scheduling as well as gets some of our, ahem, "less productive" members to fly a bit more? If the company sees an overall increase in productivity brought about by this agreement, they may not need to schedule those 21-day months very often. A nice QOL improvement! No, it's not a massive, glaringly obvious improvement, but the kind of thing I think this agreement was meant to do. And three are a lot of other small improvements I can see eventually happening that taken together will equal a decent improvement in QOL.

Meanwhile, we're making more coin without having to work harder for it. Seems good to me.
 

gunfyter

Well-known member
......Hrs...FDPP hrs... $FDPay

12411.9$1,404.20
219.67.5$885.00
43.6$2,289.20


I'll take that every month. Doing EXACTLY what I would have been doing anyway. I told you guys, this was a good deal for us.
 
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