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Mitsubishi MRJs Delayed Until 2017

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Mitsubishi delays delivery of regional aircraft on certification

Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd.’s aircraft unit, which is making Japan’s first regional passenger jet, pushed back the delivery of its first plane by more than a year after delays in certification.

Mitsubishi Aircraft Corp. will hand over its first regional jet in the second quarter of 2017, the company said in a statement in Tokyo today, instead of an earlier plan to deliver by March 2016. The plane’s initial test flight has been delayed to the second quarter of 2015 as against in the last three months of this year.

This is at least the second time Mitsubishi will be postponing deliveries after it said in April 2012 that the first flight was delayed to confirm fabrication processes and complete technical studies. The Japanese company’s decision would follow Commercial Aircraft Corp. of China pushing back the maiden test flight of the country’s first large passenger plane to 2015 from an earlier plan for next year.

“The development of an aircraft is not easy and one will obviously face some difficulty to make and deliver the planes,” said Yukihiro Kumagai, an analyst at Jefferies Japan Ltd. in Tokyo. “I am also concerned about the impact on Mitsubishi from this delay.”

Design and certification have taken “greater resources” than anticipated, Mitsubishi Aircraft said in the statement.

That “impacted component deliveries and aircraft fabrication,” the company said. Assembly of the first test airframes is underway in preparation for the ground and flight tests. ANA Holdings Inc. is the first customer for the plane.

Embraer, Bombardier

Mitsubishi Aircraft, based at Nagoya, Japan, is building 78- and 92-seater versions of the MRJ to compete with planes from Bombardier Inc. (BBD/B) and Empresa Brasileira de Aeronautica SA as it forecasts global demand for 5,000 similar-sized aircraft over the 20 years to 2030.
The company has orders for 325 aircraft, according to the statement. Of that, 165 are firm and the remainder in options. Mitsubishi won an order for 200 planes including options, worth $8.4 billion at list prices, last year from U.S. commuter carrier SkyWest Inc.

The Japanese planemaker and China’s Comac follow Russian-built Superjet, a venture between Sukhoi and Finmeccanica SpA (FNC), to develop planes with a capacity to seat about 90 people. Interjet, the Mexican low-cost airline, was the first carrier outside the former Soviet Union to operate the Superjet after getting delivery in June.

Comac delayed the flight of C919, a 168-seat aircraft, because of certain procedures that aren’t linked to technical matters, four company officials familiar with the plan said this month. In November, the Chinese planemaker said its smaller ARJ21 may not enter service for another two years.

Weak Yen

Mitsubishi in March said it is set to reap the benefits of a weakening yen after securing more than $4 billion of contracts for its plane when the currency was near a record high against the dollar. The Japanese yen has declined more than 19 percent in the past year.

The Japanese aircraft maker has won 325 orders, including options, for the plane, topping the company’s goal of up to 250 planes before the Mitsubishi Regional Jet’s first flight, Chief Executive Officer Hideo Egawa said in an interview in Tokyo on March 8.

Bombardier wants to add a salesperson dedicated to Japan to win orders from All Nippon Airways Co. and Japan Airlines Co. for its CSeries jet, which seats 110 to 130 passengers, Andy Solem, vice president of sales for China and North Asia, said in February.
 

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The order book must have been filled on April 01. Japan should stick to cars. Talk about losing face. They lost everything
 
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SkyWest will probably cancel
There's no reason to yet. SKYW set their first deliveries for 2017, so this isn't that big a blow to their confidence than say, ANA, who expected delivery 2 years ago.

Besides, SKYW has the E-175-E1/E2 to worry about right now.
 
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There's no reason to yet. SKYW set their first deliveries for 2017, so this isn't that big a blow to their confidence than say, ANA, who expected delivery 2 years ago.

Besides, SKYW has the E-175-E1/E2 to worry about right now.
ANA, TSH, etc have orders on the books before SKYW. They will see their deliveries pushed significantly and may now have a gap in their fleet replacement plan between the E-Jets and E2s. The E2s don't arrive until 2020 IIRC.
 

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ANA, TSH, etc have orders on the books before SKYW. They will see their deliveries pushed significantly QUOTE]

Maybe. Maybe not. The wonderful thing about delivery slots is that they are also a commodity.
 

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Say it isn't so!!!!! Wait, didn't I..... Hmmmmmm



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Say it isn't so!!!!! Wait, didn't I..... Hmmmmmm
No, you didn't.

Your "source" was mentioning "curious" assembly and paperwork processes.

This article is about trying to make an airplane with automobile engineering timeline and resources.
 

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No, you didn't.

Your "source" was mentioning "curious" assembly and paperwork processes.

This article is about trying to make an airplane with automobile engineering timeline and resources.
I would suggest that you do a little more investigation into Mitsubishi, I'll just say that they are the manufacturer of the rockets that places all Japanese satellites in orbit, saying that they are building an airplane with automobile engineering is an uninformed statement. Building state of the art aircraft is not easy, plain and simple, not even for a company such vast experience in aeronautical engineering.
 

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saying that they are building an airplane with automobile engineering is an uninformed statement.
I said automotive engineering TIMELINE. i.e.; they vastly underestimated the amount of time required to get the engineering done due to the differing regulatory requirements.
 

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You said timeline & resources I just wanted to point out that this is a company with vast aeronautical knowledge and not their first time around the block making airplanes, or space ships for that matter.
 
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You said timeline & resources I just wanted to point out that this is a company with vast aeronautical knowledge and not their first time around the block making airplanes, or space ships for that matter.
Those Eclipses used to be nice cars. Will they use old spoilers as winglets?
 

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Ahahahaha! Didn't I say...??... Ah shucks.... Hey Freeturd, have you talked to Dahni lately? You know, the "friend" you loved in Da Nang? That thing really cared about you, and you suddenly you up and left Hanoi to transfer to the Brasillia right seat in FAT. What did Dahni do to you? Did it tickle you? Sure it did. Your Mekong Air days are over, and all it left you with was a rash that won't go away and a serious high step in your walk, like you're walking on your tippy toes all the time. What is that all about? Ah, only Dahni knows, and your crying each night probably tells the horrid story too. Moon river! You get a sundae each night too, you have to sit on soft serve ice cream in your "sits bath" to bring down that humongo "roid" you sit on during your bounced landings in the Bro.....Goodnight toolbag!



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Nice thread kill, MODS?
 

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This message is hidden because General Lee is on your ignore list.


if you all would do the same he would go away. a tard is a tard is a tard
 

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Those Eclipses used to be nice cars. Will they use old spoilers as winglets?
Mitsubishi is a working mans car in Japan. Like Pontiac used to be here. I hope those pilots don't endup with the yoke coming off while trying to land the plane. I'm sure Mitsubishi cares more about the quality of their plane product than the car though.
 
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