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[bri5150]

You're already wrong. The pinnacle dooshers weren't up in arms at all. I remember one guy remarking on "how lean the company will be after the new concessionary contract" to gain more flying. What a bunch of turds.

After the carrot was dangled, you are right. Before the carrot (where xjet is) everyone wanted to shut er down. Much like the general saying no more 76 seaters before their carrot was dangled. It's easy to say no way when there is nothing being dangled in front of you.

 

[XPOO]

This is way different than Comair. We will become a highly efficient single fleet airline that will be very lean and mean and difficult to compete with.

Is that why, as soon as the ink was dry, Delta took a whole bunch of 900s away from Pinnacle and sent them all to SkyWest, Inc?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

What carrot exactly are you talking about? The Delta interview?

Oh boy. I can see how a bunch of Gulfstream losers might find that an attractive offer.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Is that why, as soon as the ink was dry, Delta took a whole bunch of 900s away from Pinnacle and sent them all to SkyWest, Inc?

You moron. That was a Mesaba pilot quote. Get back to your solitaire game. But yes, that's exactly why they're idiots. Thanks for illustrating my point.

 

[XPOO]

You moron. That was a Mesaba pilot quote. Get back to your solitaire game. But yes, that's exactly why they're idiots. Thanks for illustrating my point.

Sir, yes, sir. Edited original post for politcal correctness. So sorry to have offended you, your royal highness. Please, go back to your regularly scheduled SkyWest, Inc. management/Endeavor pilot group bashing. Didnt mean to buzzkill you.

 

[Nevets]

here is what I expect, anything less is a "NO VOTE".

-FULL RESTORATION OF FRAGMENTAION POLICY (because SKYW pilots aren't going to support us.)
-5 hour min day.
-trip/duty rig based on actual.
-1 week vacation year 1, 2 year two, 3 year 5, 4 year 10(like the rest of the US)
-12 days off min every month for all pilots.
-alternate deadhead without approval (we're grown ups)
-eliminate occurrences (we're not hoodlums)
-eliminate duty in (we're grown ups)
-no call for release on reserve (we're grown ups)
-simple do-fly/don't fly list for reserves
-immediate notification and release or reassignment for cancellations
-evenly split pairing length between 1,2,3 and 4 days
-75 hours min every month, no moving window
-all days off hard
-no floating days off on reserve
-single day off requires additional day off for reserves
-hotel required in domicile when overnight cancellation
-FULL RESTORATION OF FRAGMENTATION POLICY
-specific formula for reserve coverage, not whim of Skd supv.
And of course, No loose language!
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You are selling the LXJT contract WAY short!!!

After the carrot was dangled, you are right. Before the carrot (where xjet is) everyone wanted to shut er down. Much like the general saying no more 76 seaters before their carrot was dangled. It's easy to say no way when there is nothing being dangled in front of you.

The carrot has already been dangled. Inc has 600 orders for large RJs. The alternative is the parking of all our 50 seaters.

 

[nerjdriver]

Is that why, as soon as the ink was dry, Delta took a whole bunch of 900s away from Pinnacle and sent them all to SkyWest, Inc?

How many CRJs did inc lose to gojet your highness. Comair was wholly owned subsidiary of a mainline.....oh wait guess it's not different! Back to dispatching ORD-PIA XPOO.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

Let's do a little math. 6 years ago we accepted a pathetic contract for our pilot group. We have been enduring its woeful inadequacies month after month, day after day, year after year. We complain, we cast aspersions on management, we get sick, we miss our families, but what do we really do about it? Well, this is your chance to make a stand. Win or lose, you can make a stand. Stand up and be counted. You will still have your self respect if you lose, because you acted in a way that you thought was correct and just. Back to the math. 6 years ago our compensation package was set. It's 6 years later now and inflation has taken about 14% of your compensation. If we simply agreed to no changes to our current contract, then we will take a 14% pay cut. Furthermore, at the rate of current inflation (14% per 6 years) you will take another 7% pay cut if we merely agree to keep the current contract for 3 years. Are you willing to take a 22% cut? If you agree to concessions, then you are going even deeper and further backwards. You do the the same work as Stevie Viagra at the major airlines, and some of you guys are smarter and more skilled. Don't be a weakling and accept some bully demanding your children's lunch money and your mortgage payment. You can crush the bully by voting no. The union and the company have become cozy. We are bigger and more powerful. Your vote is your power. You deserve better. Ask for more.
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/historical-inflation-rates/

 

[gojo]

Is that why, as soon as the ink was dry, Delta took a whole bunch of 900s away from Pinnacle and sent them all to SkyWest, Inc?

You guys sound like Comair 10 years ago. The big bad vastly superior pilots that are going to bully everyone into a good contract. If any of you had a half a brain you'd study the last several decades of the aviation industry. Then maybe you'd realize just how cyclical this industry is. The regional model is changing. It grew quickly with the introduction of the ERJ's and CRJ's when gas was cheap. Now it's going back the other direction where they will become a place to get some experience and hopefully move on. Regionals wer'nt supposed to be career stops, but because of the last decade it became that way for many. That makes it very difficult to compete with younger airlines like Compass or Gojets.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Market forces...blah blah...

Management-born rhetoric you're obviously eager to reguritate. I actually hope this place tanks. Why should my paycheck change with the year? Answer that.

If people weren't so keen to show up and run themselves into the ground for a few hours of PIC, this wouldn't happen. I didn't come here to work for free. How about that market force.