How is a OneSky Pilot like a

GlorifiedCabbie

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How is a OneSky Pilot like a jet engine?
If you are not whining, you are not being worked hard enough.
 

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So now my friends in dispatch are getting sick of the whining from the RL pilots. The regular pilots whine because they are being overworked. The RL pilots whine because they don't do easy trips. One leg to Europe, overnight, then return. Now, to keep the program afloat, they have to do short domestic trips. And now, on their "days off", the pilots are required to be available for two days of standby.
 

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So now my friends in dispatch are getting sick of the whining from the RL pilots. The regular pilots whine because they are being overworked. The RL pilots whine because they don't do easy trips. One leg to Europe, overnight, then return. Now, to keep the program afloat, they have to do short domestic trips. And now, on their "days off", the pilots are required to be available for two days of standby.
On this I will agree: your days off are your days off. If they are being compensated either in $$ or flex-time then it is not a day off. So let's be precise about the language. That's the main problem with the Red Label program: the ambiguity of it all.

My biggest fear is the arbritrator's inability to parse the "sales" speak from reality. The company is banking on it and I hope he's smart enough to see the spin machine for what it is...

Not necessarily a whine but along the same lines I heard one of our RL windbags is defending his additional 100k a year on the basis he cuts fresh lemons and limes for his owners. Literally this was the sum total of the differences between his job and mine.

Sorry, I do believe we've always has the opportunity through catering to supply our owners with anything they desire. I can guarantee you even a Saudi Prince with an addiction to citrus would balk at the idea of his pilot cutting limes for 100k a year versus a $15 bill added to the catering.
 

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They got exactly what they signed up for. why are the little BTCHES whining. they don't deserve a hard day off thats what PTO is for. they thought they were getting over on the rest of us well guess what you got your pay raise you got your shiny new jet and you got your god a$$$ ugly uniform so shut the FK up and get back under the desk and start sucking KRS D you scum mutants
 

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Amen They got what they asked for. They are counting the stby days as off. They DH to Europe(6+ hours) then do a live leg to the middle east. They do not count the DH in the back of the plane as duty! Total BS! And cutting lemons? What's the cabin attendant for?
 

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ONLY THING THOSE POS, IGMs, CAN CUT CORRECTLY IS THE CHEESE CAUSE THEY ALL SMELL!!!
 

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Well it happened. My friend in dispatch just walked out. Just couldn't take the BS and the lying.

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The lemon windbag is a 350 guy.
That's not the same guy that left the utensils on the wing when they left for Europe was it?
 

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Sounds like you better send nice gifts to scheduling in hopes of making good friends

:laugh:
 

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That's what I heard as well.
 

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The day is coming when he will no longer have qualified people to run his operations. Sure he'll always be able to find people but we are talking qualified people.

The attrition is happening at at dizzying rate. I am truly worried the inevitable is around the corner. Like I've always said before the only thing I have control over is to make sure it's not me.
 

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Two pieces of info that came to me recently.

1: 10 pilots quitting per month fleet wide.
And a lot of the new pilot applicants are very unqualified.
2: Most days 15-20 green planes are uncrewed.
 

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Two pieces of info that came to me recently.

1: 10 pilots quitting per month fleet wide.
And a lot of the new pilot applicants are very unqualified.
2: Most days 15-20 planes are unscrewed.
3: Furloughed pilots continue to defer recall.
 
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Nobody gives a crap anymore. I have no idea what the company is paying these red lable guys all the extra money for because their airplanes look like crap. Stained stairs, worn carpet, sloppy appearance and they just stand around in the FBO not lifting a finger to help another crew. The red lable captain on 575 literally tossed his trashbag on the ramp then threw his chocks on it then taxiied away, but he gets paid over 40k more than a regular line captain who has the class to take his trash to a trash can or hand it to a line guy and tip him to handle it. Just pure crap
 

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Soon a OneSky pilot will be synonymous with inexperience as many are using the results of this arbritration as a signal it really is time to go. Many have stepped up their efforts significantly in the past week.

Who will replace them when we already can't get qualified pilots? Already we are scraping the bottom of the barrel with no ATPs, no jet time, no checklist experience. Who will come now?

I have heard from dyed in the wool red labelers who see the forecast for this company and our ability to hire for needs is severely damaged.

A question for guys like NJAOWNER. Would you hire a 16 year old to drive your family up the Peak Highway during a blizzard? Why are you willing to let Kenn Ricci turn the fractional industry into the playground of that pilot equivalent? SMH.
 

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These newhires know they won't upgrade for 10+ years. So why are they here? He was bragging that he was here for the type rating. It wont be a CL-65 but a CL-64, so he won't get the bonus when he goes to the regionals. The regionals will help him get his ATP when he gets close to 1500 hours.
 
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