- Nov 2, 2003
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Mach do you think it's possible that the judge will simply tell both sides to sit down on work out an agreement? An agreed upon VSP may still happen...?
No, writing a LOA leaves a open door every time a furlough happens in the future. The Co, may not want to offer that anymore since it was a one time offer. Clearly makes sense why the Co. didn't want to sign off on a LOA.An agreed upon VSP may still happen...?
No, writing a LOA leaves a open door every time a furlough happens in the future. The Co, may not want to offer that anymore since it was a one time offer. Clearly makes sense why the Co. didn't want to sign off on a LOA.
Literally the Fri before the VSP offer expires the Union is notified of overstaffed X and 400 capts. Sad part is it took the Union till Sunday to realease this information to the group. This gave the next 16 pilots at the bottom one days time to get their decision in, all while the Union sat in it for two days.
Side note, I do find it interesting that 40 were furloughed 24 on the street. 16 are at Flex still working, but is now 16 overstaffed in two fleets brining the total count to 40 again. Coincidence? My personal belief is I have to agree, there is going to be slow and sudden chops to the Options list and eventually shut It down. Everyone will go begging for a VSP when it comes to their number and will be turned down.
No one is disputing that, doh. You are absolutely right. Two wrongs do not however make a right, and right after management did that scumbag thing the union did its own scumbag thing and are attempting to take the VSP away from the pilots. The union is culpable for that part of it and no, most of us affected or about to be affected by the furlough don't buy the lame-ass excuse of the CBA being thrown out the window if the union had just signed off on the LOA and let the pilots get some f'ing money on their way out the door, because most of us have no intention of coming back after this one. The company probably won't even exist in 18 months anyway.Let's get something straight. The union didn't sit on a thing! Management, those slimy aholes, sat on the letter and tossed it on the table when they were supposed to be meeting to negotiate fences. But because they are lying scumbags, they put that out instead of sticking to what they promised to negotiate. They knew they were going to execute the furlough months ago! But instead of giving proper notice, they sat on it. And because they sat on it, the union's initial response assumed it was a leave of absence. So their initial response was recall rights. You see, when management lies and deceives, honest people may not be clear on what the scumbags are trying to accomplish. Good faith negotiations would have alleviated that, but aholes like our management are incapable of decent human behavior. This has nothing to do with the union. This is all a product of scumbag management. If you two can't see that, then there is nothing that will help you.
It appears that the pilots at Flight Options/FlexJet are working for a management team that is hell bent on creating turmoil and infighting within the ranks. The sad part is, it's working.
If Ken Ricci wanted to make it all good, he could. He's playing you guys one against the other with great success.
The Mach94 guy with the recent posts is awfully suspicious. He's blaming everything on the union. I would definitely listen to what your union leadership has to say.
Good luck guys.