Delta flt. escorted back to ATL

Flyer7SA

Active member
Joined
Nov 27, 2001
Posts
39
Total Time
1200+
I can't figure it out... Why would the FAA request an escort due to a bad squaker, especially when the pilots hadn't lost radio contact???



ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Two National Guard fighter jets escorted a Delta Air Lines plane back to Hartsfield Atlanta International Airport on Friday after the plane's transponder malfunctioned shortly after taking off.

The Washington-bound jetliner was intercepted by F-16 jets about 15 minutes after it took off, according to the North American Aerospace Defense Command in Colorado.

It landed at Hartsfield about 10 minutes later. All nine passengers were booked on other flights to Washington's Reagan National Airport.

The transponder sends information about a plane's identity, altitude, speed and direction to air traffic controllers. Controllers have been particularly sensitive about transponder data since the September 11 hijackings, when terrorists switched off the transponders before crashing.

During Friday's incident, the Delta pilots were in continuous communication with air traffic controllers, Delta spokeswoman Peggy Estes said.

She said the problem was determined to be a malfunction and the plane, an MD-88, was being repaired and would be to return to service.

The FAA requested the jet escort at 8 a.m., said Marine Corp. Maj. Mike Snyder, a NORAD spokesman. The fighter jets were sent from Robins Air Force Base, south of Macon.
 

Wiggums

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 26, 2001
Posts
1,040
Total Time
.
The worst news there is that the flight only had nine passengers. :(
 

FL000

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 26, 2001
Posts
1,577
Total Time
1500
An airliner with no transponder headed to DCA??? Radio contact or not, I think I'll have to side with ATC on this one. They don't know what's going on inside that cockpit.
 

1800 RVR

Sitting reserve...
Joined
Nov 26, 2001
Posts
340
Total Time
6500
No kidding! Wouldn't you think this flight was worth the good ole "Sorry ladies and gentlemen, due to a mechanical problem..." At least the completion factor didn't drop. ;)
 

boscenter

DC-9 Evangelist
Joined
Dec 12, 2001
Posts
148
Total Time
--
I can see why it was only 9 ppl, lol. People that know this area know that it is consistently cheaper to fly in/out of BWI than it is to travel to/from IAD or DCA. This is esp. true for trips along the east coast.

Just a small sample:

DCA/IAD - BOS = $168 (LOL)
BWI - BOS = $68

DCA/IAD - ATL = $130
BWI - ATL = $118

I have yet to be on a flight out of BWI that was less than 90-95% full; and, I fly out of there a lot.

Mad props to carriers like jetBlue, AirTran, and Southwest whose fares make sense!
 

enigma

good ol boy
Joined
Nov 26, 2001
Posts
2,279
Total Time
>1500
I could see the escort, if the DAL flight in some way deviated from a clearance, or refused to follow instructions. To have escorted it back when it was following instructions was a waste of money. I'm sure that the escort was requested because the FAA was making sure that they were covered.

Meanwhile, the country is still the residence of at least 6000 male illegal aliens from countrys that are known to harbor terrorists.

Yea, we got our priorities straight.

regards
 

MartinFierro

Flyin' Gaucho
Joined
Jan 7, 2002
Posts
89
Total Time
is now
I believe, especially in todays world, that it is always better to play it on the safe side.

Meanwhile, the country is still the residence of at least 6000 male illegal aliens from countrys that are known to harbor terrorists.
Not to go off on unrelated tangents, but please. If you think that only illegal aliens can be/are terrorists, that is naive. I'm all for erradicating terrorism, but lets not be blinded by stereotypes.
 

Wiggums

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 26, 2001
Posts
1,040
Total Time
.
Yeah, anyone can be a terrorist, but so far the terrorists that have struck have fit a certain profile. I say that kicking out 6,000 people that come from countrys that typically produce terrorists is a good start. Remember, these 6,000 people are here illegally. They are lawbreakers and should be dealt with accordingly.
 

enigma

good ol boy
Joined
Nov 26, 2001
Posts
2,279
Total Time
>1500
The Price of Freedom

Martin,

I don't mind going off on unrelated subjects. Matter of Fact, I'm happy to do so.

MartinFierro said:

Not to go off on unrelated tangents, but please. If you think that only illegal aliens can be/are terrorists, that is naive. I'm all for erradicating terrorism, but lets not be blinded by stereotypes.
This country was designed, according to John Adams, for a self-regulating people. He wrote that it was wholely unsuited for any other kind of people. What that means is that the price of freedom is the necessity to be self-disciplined. It is a privilege to live in this free country. Those 6000 men from suspected terrorist countries lost the right to access the privilege when they broke the law. THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!They have no right to residence in this country, and we owe them none of the rights afforded US citizens. Open your politically correct eyes and re-think your position.
 

Le Pilote

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 28, 2005
Posts
52
Total Time
na
Been a wave of escorting recently, with the Cessna and all. 9 passengers? Really??
 

Flyer7SA

Active member
Joined
Nov 27, 2001
Posts
39
Total Time
1200+
I think, personally, that the "powers that be" are more than just a little trigger happy. Today's incident proves it.

Now, the dumbass that entered that airspace in his 150 should have his license revoked. He could potentially ruin GA as we know it today. Along with the authority of being PIC comes the responsibility.

It's certainly is a different environment we're living in today.

Flyer7SA
 

FlyChicaga

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 23, 2002
Posts
862
Total Time
4500
Ok, WTFO? Not only was this thread from 2002 resurrected, but the dude who made it responded in 2005. Weird night.
 
3

350DRIVER

gkrangers said:
So why not just order it to turn around and land at ATL to have the transponder replaced? Did it really need a fighter escort when it was 15 minutes outside of ATL?

I could understand if the box failed inside the ADIZ or something...
gk,

All these "recent" escorts back, makes you wonder huh?!
 

Flyer7SA

Active member
Joined
Nov 27, 2001
Posts
39
Total Time
1200+
Yeah, someone responded today, and I got the E-mail, so I read it and responded. Talking about, "hold that thought one..."
 

enigma

good ol boy
Joined
Nov 26, 2001
Posts
2,279
Total Time
>1500
Three years later, and

I'm still right.

enigma
 

FN FAL

Freight Dawgs Rule
Joined
Dec 17, 2003
Posts
8,580
Total Time
7,000+
Hmmmm...Delta flight gets an escort and a 152 gets an escort?

I wonder what's going on? Seems like they are a little jumpy lately, do you think they are on to something they are not telling us about?
 

SkyBoy1981

Bring a towel!
Joined
Jul 17, 2004
Posts
1,482
Total Time
5000
This Delta escort happened in 2002. Its an old thread. :)
 

GravityHater

Well-known member
Joined
Aug 12, 2004
Posts
1,168
Total Time
3000
A timely example of why two completely independant transponders are a great idea in transport category a/c?
 
Top