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pilotyip

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An article in the WSJ from Express Employment Services, the 5th largest employment agency in the country.

"Another big hurdle is the widening skills deficit. At any given time, Mr. Funk says, Express has as many as 20,000 jobs the company can't fill because workers don't have the skills required. His advice to young people who are looking for a solid career is to get training in accounting (thanks to Dodd-Frank's huge expansion of paperwork), information technology, manufacturing-robotics programming, welding and engineering. He's mystified why Express has so much trouble filling thousands of information-technology jobs when so many young, working-age adults are computer literate.

He blames public schools and universities for the skills mismatch. Young people looking for a financially secure future might want to heed one of his favorite pieces of cautionary advice: "If you've got a college degree in psych, poly-sci or sociology, sorry, I can't help you find a job." He urges greater emphasis on vocational and practical skills training in schools, universities and junior colleges."

People are graduating from college with no marketable skills, yet 1,000's of good paying jobs go unfilled because no one has the skills.This fits right in with what I have saying for years, the purpose of advanced education is to give you skills that lead to a good paying job that is in demand. Well except when it comes to flying an airplane where the college degree has nothing to do with the skill set needed for the job, it is only a screening method used by uninformed HR departments.

here is link to the entire article

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...033601178.html
 
And furthermore, the slow motion train wreck is apparently still in motion. It's pretty discouraging. When a culture no longer values education enough to make the worth of it part of that culture from the moment kids can understand language, this is what you get.

But then, academic effort is a lot of work and "Dancing With The Stars" is on !!!

"Only 43 percent of test-takers in 2013 met the SAT's definition of being prepared for college, a statistic that has remained stagnant since 2009"

"Since 1972, the first year from which the College Board lists comparable SAT results, scores have declined. In 1972, students averaged a 530 in reading and a 509 in math; in 1995, they scored an average 504 in reading and a 506 in math; in 2003, they scored s507 in reading and 519 in math, compared to 496 on reading and 514 on math this year. In 2006, the first year the writing portion of the test was offered, students averaged 497, compared to 488 this year."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/26/sat-results-2013_n_3991523.html

Hey, I know what we could do: THROW MORE MONEY AT IT !! Then you could get more results like those in Figures 2 & 3(40 years of data) in this article:

http://www.cato.org/publications/congressional-testimony/impact-federal-involvement-americ
as-classrooms
 
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And furthermore, the slow motion train wreck is apparently still in motion. It's pretty discouraging. When a culture no longer values education enough to make the worth of it part of that culture from the moment kids can understand language, this is what you get.
yet we have become a society where your worth as a person is measured by the possesion of a college degree. The President gets on his band wagon. "Everyone must go to college" In high schools, the vocational arts have all but vanished. We've elevated the importance of "higher education" to such a lofty perch that all other forms of knowledge are now labeled "alternative."

Millions of parents and kids see apprenticeships and on-the-job-training opportunities as "vocational consolation prizes," best suited for those not cut out for a four-year degree. Yet many of the programs have much higher academic entrance requirements that many colleges. Take the Navy's Nuclear Power Training program. This program leads to 6 figure jobs in the civilian Nuclear power industry. Yet no High School counselor spend 5 minutes with anyone not going to college.

In a hundred different ways, we have slowly marginalized an entire category of critical professions, reshaping our expectations of a "good job" into something that no longer looks like work. A few years from now, an hour with a good plumber if you can find one is going to cost more than an hour with a good psychiatrist. At which point we'll all be in need of both. I came here today because guys like my grandfather are no less important to civilized life than they were 50 years ago. Maybe they're in short supply because we don't acknowledge them they way we used to. We leave our check on the kitchen counter, and hope the work gets done. That needs to change.
 
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pilotyip,

Amen !! "Education" is a term covering a lot of ground, much of it not involving a college classroom.
 
Nothing lasts forever......bye-bye America. Get out while you can, I did.

At least the America we all know today.....it's bye-bye. The next generation America (America II) will be socialists being raised by low-life, lazy, losers who are living on government entitlements today and the smart illegal immigrants that cross the border for free food, medical and tax free cash jobs so they can send that cash back to their home country.
 
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Nothing lasts forever......bye-bye America. Get out while you can, I did.

At least the America we all know today.....it's bye-bye. The next generation America (America II) will be socialists being raised by low-life, lazy, losers who are living on government entitlements today and the smart illegal immigrants that cross the border for free food, medical and tax free cash jobs so they can send that cash back to their home country.
No the opportunites for those with 'fix it" skills, like auto mechanics, plumbers, air conditioning repair, etc, will be in high demand and in most cases be paid more than a college graduate with a non-technical degree. Plus they will have little debt.
 
Not to mention carpenters and electricians. The dumb kid I went to public school with that I always made fun of because he went to a vocational high school is a millionaire now and vacations in the South Pacific. Turned out to be a hell of a nice guy, so that's fine. Me, on the other hand.....
 
Nothing lasts forever......bye-bye America. Get out while you can, I did.

At least the America we all know today.....it's bye-bye. The next generation America (America II) will be socialists being raised by low-life, lazy, losers who are living on government entitlements today and the smart illegal immigrants that cross the border for free food, medical and tax free cash jobs so they can send that cash back to their home country.


I have both a college degree and a technical degree/license in which I have only been unemployed for very short periods of time! what I have learned is a generation or two unwilling to learn new things such as technology or a different way of doing things. This equals laziness or stupidity or both! you're right because no one or country can be competitive in this world with those circumstances!
 

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