Now I know what this is about. Yes raj, it is okay to vote "no", as long as you are voting your true opinion and not what someone is pressuring you to vote.We are embarking on an Interim Based Initiative at Netjets. Trying to avoid the normal chaos with Section 6 bargaining.
Given the fact that the usual shills are ALREADY wallpapering the union board, BOHICA boys and girls.
Just spitballing here but I'm guessing I'll be voting NO.
Since ML is negotiating it, and the usual suspects are ALREADY selling it, yup, I'm a NO vote. And something WILL come to a vote. To think otherwise is truly naive.Best thing to do is simply read what's offered (if we even get that far. There's no guarantee our NC will come to any kind of agreement) and vote as you think best.
I do love all the guys screaming that the duration is too long, and we'll have to wait FOREVER before we'll have another opportunity to make improvements, then when the opportunity comes along those same folks are screaming they don't trust anyone, it's going to be terrible (they just KNOW it!), and the company can just go sit and spin and they'd rather go with status quo than entertain a negotiating opportunity at this time.
Some funny stuff right there!
I'm going to remain out of the debate this time. Some folks have already made up their minds before our negotiators have sat down for the first session. There'll be no convincing those folks. IF we have something presented to us to vote on, I'll read it, weigh the pros and cons, and vote on what's best for my family, my coworkers and myself.
It'll either pass or it won't. Life will go on either way. At the very least I hope the bargaining part works out (such that we end up with something to vote on). I much prefer this approach then the typical vitriol of section 6 bargaining.
I haven't seen anyone selling anything yet. There's northing to sell at this point.Since ML is negotiating it, and the usual suspects are ALREADY selling it, yup, I'm a NO vote. And something WILL come to a vote. To think otherwise is truly naive.
The only question that remains is which subsection of the membership gets hosed this time.
Gut, we'll just have to agree to disagree with this. I don't know what everyone expects. There are people on the boards screaming for union leaders to answer their questions. My gosh, if it goes more than 20 minutes after someone asks a question and no one shows up to answer, it's suddenly all a big conspiracy theory and cover-up. But when leaders finally do show up to answer the questions and explain their perspectives, they're making a "sales job" or "gas lighting" everyone. No matter what they do they can't win.How can it possibly be a "fair" deal when the ENTIRE process is predicated on the phrase "cost neutral"? THAT is the operative phrase that should have IMMEDIATELY resulted in the E Board saying "uh, yeah, we're good with the contract as is." The company clearly needs relief desperately enough to move off that position. But that horse is ALREADY out of the barn.
If you can't see that the sudden and FREQUENT appearances by the almighty negotiating genius himself are the beginnng of a pre-emptive sales job, then I can't help you. It isn't "talking people off a ledge." It's gaslighting people into questioning their gut instincts. Google the term....