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    Trump and AG Sessions will give a frack!!!!!!!! Criminal charges will be coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Now that the hearings have been concluded, will you concede there never was an Obama administration led wiretapping of Trump, Trump Tower or the Trump campaign?

    I do appreciate Trump and his most ardent followers prefer to live in a fact-resistent environment but, surely, there must come a point when common sense prevails?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroWheenie View Post

    I do appreciate Trump and his most ardent followers prefer to live in a fact-resistent environment but, surely, there must come a point when common sense prevails?
    I just have to wonder-what kind of appreciation you have for those poor deluded people who though Mz. Clinton was a reasonable choice?

    The real falsehood in your statement is that "facts" are not based in one's political unreality regardless of what part of that spectrum your reside in and if you had actually listened to any of the proceedings you would know that the fact of the matter is that there were more questions unasked than asked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belchfire View Post
    I just have to wonder-what kind of appreciation you have for those poor deluded people who though Mz. Clinton was a reasonable choice?

    The real falsehood in your statement is that "facts" are not based in one's political unreality regardless of what part of that spectrum your reside in and if you had actually listened to any of the proceedings you would know that the fact of the matter is that there were more questions unasked than asked.
    I have no affection for former candidate Clinton, and fully appreciate you were faced with a particularly nasty version of Hobson's Choice.

    That's not the point, however. The point is that President Trump has, throughout the campaign and during his time as POTUS, flaunted a phalanx of 'facts' which, on closer examination, have been found to be much less 'facts' and much more 'just made that one up on the fly'. To a very large extent, his most ardent supporters have defended the rather la(s)sie-faire way of handling facts common of his administration. But with the hearings concluding that his perhaps biggest 'fact', namely the tapping of his wires by Obama, has no foundation in truth, will that alter the opinion of his supporters? Or are they so invested in him that they'll accept anything, up to and including getting away with shooting someone dead on 5th Avenue (as he himself suggested)?
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    I don't know Euro and I seriously doubt we ever will know for sure but here is some other information.

    Well before Trump tweeted about being wiretapped early this month, the New York Times was publishing articles about "Intercepted Communications" back in January!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/u...tion.html?_r=0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_...ng_allegations

    http://nypost.com/2017/03/08/did-the...as-wiretapped/

    Maybe Trump just got tripped up by the "Fake News" and maybe the NYT is only reliable for lining the bottom of the parakeet cage?

    Would the bho appointee Director J. Brien Comey (who went so far out of his way to protect Mz. Clinton from criminal charges) bother to know what or if any source of electronics intelligence gathering directed at Trump would be?

    I doubt it...seriously though, the expression "wiretapping" is so J. Edgar Hoover!

    Either the media is lying or the people who testified are lying-President Trump himself doesn't even have to enter into the equation!
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    And now this...

    Trump Transition Team actually was being surveilled regardless of protests of some to the contrary!

    As reported in the United States' own version of Pravda...

    http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/...tion/99502568/


    As I indicated earlier "wiretapped" is kind of an archaic expression but President Trump is of an age group that may not be given to modern, broad reaching acronyms like "ELINT" and the like.

    I'm not even sure the "Cone of Silence" would be effective any more...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1eUIK9CihA

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroWheenie View Post
    But with the hearings concluding that his perhaps biggest 'fact', namely the tapping of his wires by Obama, has no foundation in truth...
    Now, now. So it wasn't Obama "personally" but it was his NSA apparatus that surveiled Trump inc.

    So Trump was essentially correct, he was surveiled by Obama's people.

    I'm sure you're furious that Trump is vindicated...
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    Don't know where you get your facts from, Birdy, albeit I do have my suspicions. The only fact we know is, that the boss of the NSA and FBI said there was no surveillance of Trump, Trump Towers or the Trump campaign. And that, whichever way you try to turn it, is as far removed from 'Obama had my wires tapped, he's a horrible person' as it'll ever get.

    I'm sure you're furious Trump hasn't been vindicated.

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    Let's see how the vote on 'Wedontcare' goes today, shall we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by belchfire View Post
    And now this...

    Trump Transition Team actually was being surveilled regardless of protests of some to the contrary!

    As reported in the United States' own version of Pravda...

    http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/...tion/99502568/


    As I indicated earlier "wiretapped" is kind of an archaic expression but President Trump is of an age group that may not be given to modern, broad reaching acronyms like "ELINT" and the like.

    I'm not even sure the "Cone of Silence" would be effective any more...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1eUIK9CihA

    Trump did say the facts would come out in two weeks. Ooops....

    Trump's problem is he has upset the apple cart and deep state is and has been on his @ss. I hope he doesn't get Arkancided or JFK'd.
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    Arkancided, I like that one-nice veiled reference to some interesting life ending occurrences surrounding a particularly despicable political dynasty!

    I'm sure there are parties considering it but that would be the worst thing the lefties and career paper pushers could arrange...
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