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    Lt. Col. Shaffer: Potential Obama Wiretapping is "Soviet-Level Wrongdoing"!!!

    Lt. Col. Shaffer: Potential Obama Wiretapping Is "Soviet-Level Wrongdoing"!!!


    Mar 04, 2017 // 3:15pm

    Ret. U.S. Army Intelligence Officer Tony Shaffer said potential wiretapping by a sitting U.S. president is "Soviet-level wrongdoing."


    Lt. Col. Shaffer was a guest Saturday morning on "Fox & Friends Weekend" sharing his thoughts on President Donald Trump's early morning tweets accusing the Obama administration of wiretapping Trump Tower prior to the 2016 election.

    Obama, through his spokesman Kevin Lewis, denied such allegations.

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    Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!

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    Shaffer said it is "very likely" Obama authorized the wiretapping.

    "Simply because you don't like someone doesn't give you the right as the sitting president to do something like this. ... This was about trying to gain an advantage for his side, this case [Hillary] Clinton," he said.

    Shaffer also said Trump must have sufficient evidence since he went public with the accusations on Twitter.


    Maybe now Trump gets to "take down" the Kenyan Communist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    I wouldn't count on it, though it would be nice for bho and holder to be cell mates in Leavenworth...
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    Until such time Trump produces evidence for his wild accusations, it's just that - wild accusations. My guess is the Twitterer in Chief has nothing of the kind, having seemingly launched his Twitterade on the back of story in Breitfart. Yes, Breitfart.

    Besides, if you want to know what's going on inside the Trump offices, eavesdropping on the Russians would seem like the easiest way out. And that's not even illegal.
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    Fast and Furious should have gotten Holder locked up until the turn of the century.
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    Tons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by EuroWheenie View Post
    Until such time Trump produces evidence for his wild accusations, it's just that - wild accusations. My guess is the Twitterer in Chief has nothing of the kind, having seemingly launched his Twitterade on the back of story in Breitfart. Yes, Breitfart.

    Besides, if you want to know what's going on inside the Trump offices, eavesdropping on the Russians would seem like the easiest way out. And that's not even illegal.


    Hey EuroWheenie wimp dude, FYI,there are tons of evidence waiting to come out on the Kenyan Communist!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    What's keeping you from releasing it little man?
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    There is plenty of evidence in the Fast and Furious case (circumstantially including the suspicious timing of bho visiting Mexico and El Presidente of Mexico subsequently making a rant against our Amendment II) and we can see how much good that evidence did regardless of how many heads should have rolled...

    The fact of the matter regarding liberals in the US especially and to a lesser degree all of the rich and powerful the rule of law simply does not apply.
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    Released!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by EuroWheenie View Post
    What's keeping you from releasing it little man?



    Hey EuroWheenie wimp dude,FYI, I personally,don't possess this info,however,it will be released in the coming months!!!!! Also ya boy,Soros,will also be facing criminal charges in US courts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-force View Post
    Also ya boy,Soros,will also be facing criminal charges in US courts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    That's only coming about 30 years too late...heck, people are all wrapped up around the axle about the rejuvenated Soviets messing in other nation's politics yet that's the nature of the Soviets-nothing new there but no one seems to give a frack about the trail of wreckage that Soros has left behind with his meddling!
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    Criminal charges!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by belchfire View Post
    That's only coming about 30 years too late...heck, people are all wrapped up around the axle about the rejuvenated Soviets messing in other nation's politics yet that's the nature of the Soviets-nothing new there but no one seems to give a frack about the trail of wreckage that Soros has left behind with his meddling!


    Trump and AG Sessions will give a frack!!!!!!!! Criminal charges will be coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-force View Post

    Trump and AG Sessions will give a frack!!!!!!!! Criminal charges will be coming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    We can hope...
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    Now that the hearings have been concluded, will you concede there never was an Obama administration led wiretapping of Trump, Trump Tower or the Trump campaign?

    I do appreciate Trump and his most ardent followers prefer to live in a fact-resistent environment but, surely, there must come a point when common sense prevails?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroWheenie View Post

    I do appreciate Trump and his most ardent followers prefer to live in a fact-resistent environment but, surely, there must come a point when common sense prevails?
    I just have to wonder-what kind of appreciation you have for those poor deluded people who though Mz. Clinton was a reasonable choice?

    The real falsehood in your statement is that "facts" are not based in one's political unreality regardless of what part of that spectrum your reside in and if you had actually listened to any of the proceedings you would know that the fact of the matter is that there were more questions unasked than asked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belchfire View Post
    I just have to wonder-what kind of appreciation you have for those poor deluded people who though Mz. Clinton was a reasonable choice?

    The real falsehood in your statement is that "facts" are not based in one's political unreality regardless of what part of that spectrum your reside in and if you had actually listened to any of the proceedings you would know that the fact of the matter is that there were more questions unasked than asked.
    I have no affection for former candidate Clinton, and fully appreciate you were faced with a particularly nasty version of Hobson's Choice.

    That's not the point, however. The point is that President Trump has, throughout the campaign and during his time as POTUS, flaunted a phalanx of 'facts' which, on closer examination, have been found to be much less 'facts' and much more 'just made that one up on the fly'. To a very large extent, his most ardent supporters have defended the rather la(s)sie-faire way of handling facts common of his administration. But with the hearings concluding that his perhaps biggest 'fact', namely the tapping of his wires by Obama, has no foundation in truth, will that alter the opinion of his supporters? Or are they so invested in him that they'll accept anything, up to and including getting away with shooting someone dead on 5th Avenue (as he himself suggested)?
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    I don't know Euro and I seriously doubt we ever will know for sure but here is some other information.

    Well before Trump tweeted about being wiretapped early this month, the New York Times was publishing articles about "Intercepted Communications" back in January!

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/19/u...tion.html?_r=0

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_...ng_allegations

    http://nypost.com/2017/03/08/did-the...as-wiretapped/

    Maybe Trump just got tripped up by the "Fake News" and maybe the NYT is only reliable for lining the bottom of the parakeet cage?

    Would the bho appointee Director J. Brien Comey (who went so far out of his way to protect Mz. Clinton from criminal charges) bother to know what or if any source of electronics intelligence gathering directed at Trump would be?

    I doubt it...seriously though, the expression "wiretapping" is so J. Edgar Hoover!

    Either the media is lying or the people who testified are lying-President Trump himself doesn't even have to enter into the equation!
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