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    Flexjet vs Netjets

    1. They can hold the 7/7 schedule as a high time FO, but not as a low time Capt. 2. Will not get the desired vacation, (same as #1). 3. Do not know the protocol between Capt and company yet.(Paperwork, flight releases, interaction with PMs.) 4. Haven't flown a particular jet in winter ops...
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    Fractional Info...Flight Options or EJA

    Aha...Ohhh......Slider, you kill me :p Your defense is a misinformed quote that begins with, "the word on the street is?!?!?" 1st, we don't have 7 BBJs, we have 5 2nd, check the N-numbers on the FAA registry and you can see which ones are sold. Any 8 year old can search for that. It's...
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    Fractional Info...Flight Options or EJA

    I did the conversion on the Opts website after the merger. My current situation with wife and kids would have cost $2880/yr at Opts. Year 1 Captains pay at EJA is about the same as Year 1 FO pay at EJA. This is per the EJA pilots website You might want to look again. 1st year EJ FO is...
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    Fractional Info...Flight Options or EJA

    I don't know if I would call it substatial considering OPTs is paying close to $3000 per year for insurance that Netjets pilots don't. (Don't say we have to pay union dues in response, they are nowhere near 3K/yr.) Too many factors are involved in compensation. Do you think Ricci is going to...
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    Two Miles High

    Good grief! 172’s at 18,000’ and B737s at FL410. I’ll never get used to either. Dlwdracos, Congratulations on the achievement. It is good to hear someone speak of the simple joys of flying on this board. As well as writing with such passion for flying. Your story reminds us all of our...
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    Flight Options new program!!

    Where is the false advertising? It only claims they are CERTIFICATED as Captains, it never said they were operating/acting as Captains. Much the same as your response about FO LLC.
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    Flight Options new program!!

    I guess Ricci didn't think the one Netjets published LAST YEAR was unbiased enough. They say imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. ;) PS...Take a guess where Options first SIIs came from. PSS...Another guess where Avolar's HS125 came from. Same answer for both.
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    Pro and Con fractional vs corporate

    Re: Re: Re: Corporate versus fractional In the case of dead-heading on empty aircraft, EJA has the same policy for its' employees.
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    Pro and Con fractional vs corporate

    Re: Corporate versus fractional -Not more than 500 I would guess. Still not good chances of getting on with one considering the number of flight departments in the US. (Of course getting on at the fracs isn't easy now either) -You guys seem to be compensated well. But, I'm sure you don't...
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    Pro and Con fractional vs corporate

    OOOOOOOOO. K. Back to the original question... Fractional Con: Being gone from home for a week at a time. Corporate Con: You may be gone for 2 or 3 weeks at a time. (But usually home every night.) Fractional Pro: Not tied to a pager. My week off, the company cannot touch me. Not like...
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    How do they do it at EJA?

    OK, I'll use little words this time. Imagine YOU own an airplane. You have two flights. One empty and one with passengers. You only have two pilots (Forget about PIC/SIC). Which pilot do YOU want to fly the leg with passengers? The new guy, or the guy that has been there 3 years? PS...
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    How do they do it at EJA?

    The last time I checked, TRUST was earned, not deserved. Come on guys, use your noodles here. There are two guys in the cockpit and only one can fly at a time. A newhire can fly empty legs or live legs. Which makes more sense to you, learning the ropes in an empty airplane or irritating the...
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    EJA=enemy

    I am far from worked up. I thought I was just having a normal conversation. As far as "so many...worked up." There are only a few EJ responses on this issue. Thanks for the quote, it must have come from a previous weeks message. Sure, I listen to the message. Everyone on the internet is...
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    EJA=enemy

    What war on words? Battles between management? The only words being thrown around so far are Ken Ricci's. My post above never put down Flight Options' pilots or their company. Even R. Santulli is happy to have them in the business. Most of my fellow EJA pilots and myself, have no animosity...
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    EJA=enemy

    Re: Can't we all get along? I have heard KRs message word for word. There is NO mention of Netjets contacting Options owners. However, he is 150% INCORRECT about the statements he made about the Netjets operations center. He stated that there is "no centralized area/room" where the...
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    EJ Fleet

    25 Encores on order so far...
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    Ejm To Be A Union

    Wow, that's a surprise! I'm glad to hear it. Keep us posted. We'll be eager to see how it turns out. Good luck guys. Call the #284 and sign up.
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    EJ Fleet

    802 and 804 are about to come out of completion. We still have PMs for the G200, with no official cancellation and they are still advertised on netjets.com. If we were to cancel the G200s, you know we would be ordering another 100 aircraft from someone in a hurry. I bet Dassault would cut as...
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    EJ Fleet

    Survery says............ 75 Ultras 4 Encores 29 Excels 14 VIIs 58 Xs 28 DA2000A 25 800XP 27 BAe 1000 5 BBJs 37 GIV SPs 8 GVs Total: 310 Total when orders are complete 1009! G200s start in June (100) Horizons and Sovereigns in 2004 (100 each) Answerguy, Can you return the favor? What's...
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    1200-1500hrs For Minimum Requirements

    There is a lot more to consider than numbers: 1. Where IS the commuter job? Boston, Mass or Laredo Texas? ....makes a big difference. 2. What does the commuter fly? A C402 or a B1900? 3. 500 hours in a Seneca with (1) engine running vs. 800 hours in a jet in cruise flight with BOTH...
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