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Air Force to UAL New Hire
The airlines could sure use some real pilots. :beer: -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
Well why don't more women apply. I have asked this question three times now. If it's not the case today the numbers sure don't reflect it. -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
And why would that be? When the white male pilot community has been so welcoming and accepting. You highlight the contradictions in your own posts. Nice going. -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
Sorry the actual numbers just don't back up your anecdotes. I guess 91% white male was just not good enough for you. -
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Air Force to UAL New Hire
Actually its more like 19 of 20. Like you though Trip suffers a perception problem. Civilian pilots still outnumber military pilots at SWA 55% to 45%. -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
Are you serious! Men have been exclusively crashing planes for over 100 years, maybe they shouldn't be allowed to fly either. With so few women pilots any accident involving a woman is going to screw up the percentages. I don't remember the woman being at fault in the Colgan accident or are... -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
Again all you are going on is your perception. United took in over 32,000 applications and hired apx. 1,400 so a lot of you friends got turned down, not because of their skin color or gender but because they didn't have a whole lot of positions open. Of those 1400, they still hired 91% white... -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
Well you post shows you haven't really given it much thought, yet you pronounce the days of inequality are over. A bit of a contradiction don't you think? It has everything to do with United. You said those days are over, problem solved. Well that is not exactly reality. You made it... -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
A secret computer programmed by the military no doubt! -
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Air Force to UAL New Hire
:laugh: Figures you would say that. Don't you see the inherent contradiction in the post? Let me help you: Why do women not choose aviation, a job always listed as a top ten career for pay and satisfaction? Why would that be the case if everything was just fine? Do you think groups like the... -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
Well the stats don't lie. The "300 hour wonder" hiring was nowhere near as prevalent as you made it out to be or perhaps you just misremember, yet you obviously harbor plenty of resentment. Don't you think that may be part of the problem? I ask again have you ever discussed the situation with... -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
Again spoken from the perspective of the white male. We often choose not to go places where we feel we will not be welcome. Ever discussed it with a female pilot/ I have and they all say the same thing, that they feel they have to be better, that they get no slack, and constantly have to prove... -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
Here are the numbers from the United hiring bias lawsuit in the late 80's: Among the 1,400 pilots hired out of 32,500 applicants, 75 were black or other minorities and 59 were women out of a total of 3,000 minority and female applicants. 75 out of 1400 in a country that is over 35% minority... -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
I think your post pretty much sums up the white male perspective of "it's over lets move on" while ignoring subtle and sometimes not so subtle discrimination that continues to this day. You think it's solved but have you asked any women of African Americans what they thought? There are still... -
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Air Force to UAL New Hire
I did another application that had "Night PIC not as an instructor". Who the hell logs that exactly, and who the hell cares? Once I got to the corporate world no one ever asked to see my log book again in an interview, and I never had to worry about where to put FE time or Level D Sim... -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
But you didn't really answer the question. What do you do as a company or society to make amends? It is easy for us to sit here an pretend it didn't happen, but don't you think that plenty of other people remember those times, and remember the injustice? I have read a few books like "A-Train"... -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
Considering United didn't hire its first black pilot until 1965 and it's first woman pilot until 1973, a different kind of BS was perpetuated for over 30 years. How do you remedy a situation like that? Pretending it never happened is not exactly justice or fairness. -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
That also helped their interns. I think Air Force guys always had the leg up because of all the jet training. In the 80's Air Force pilots from every background still completed T-37 and T-38 training. Naval Aviators may have never flown a jet since you flew all turboprops in training, then... -
Air Force to UAL New Hire
Wave this is from SWA's website: Flight Experience: 2,500 hours total or 1,500 hours Turbine total. Additionally, a minimum of 1,000 hours in Turbine aircraft as the Pilot in Command is required2. Southwest considers only Pilot time in fixed-wing aircraft. This specifically excludes... -