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  1. Club ORD FO

    Flexjet phildo

    Well there is no point arguing over contract language as there is no contract. All I know for sure is that the policy use to be no FO to FO moves unless there was a company need for it. Any open FO seats were filled by new hires. That’s just the way it was and everyone accepted it. As the...
  2. Club ORD FO

    Flexjet phildo

    Before we had a contract at Flexjet, FOs couldn't transfer to another FO seat unless there was a company need for it, such as a retiring fleet or balancing. The contract, however, did allow for FO to FO moves, which is why you see former Phenom FOs in other fleets. As for your contract quote...
  3. Club ORD FO

    NJASAP Officials stand in front on Flexjet sign with their center fingers extended

    Yeah, senior red label pilots are paid well. Everyone else is below industry average. You can look forward to that pay in oh, 10-15 years maybe? Wouldn’t you rather be paid well for every stage of your entire career?
  4. Club ORD FO

    NJASAP Officials stand in front on Flexjet sign with their center fingers extended

    Looking at the Flex Vs Netjets pay scales: Comparing the Flex PBS rate VS the Netjets Crew Choice 72 (216 days per year) on the year 4 column (that correct?) Year 1: Flex = $355/day, $76,680/year. Netjets = $360/day, $77,853/year Year 3: Flex = $385/day, $83,160/year. Netjets = $397/day...
  5. Club ORD FO

    All Flex (One Sky) Pilots

    I'm not sure I agree. Skywest has never had a union, and they keep their pay fairly high so they do not have a negative impact on the industry as a whole. It'll be a different story if/when a company kicks out a union. It'll be the first time it has happened in the history of the industry...
  7. Club ORD FO

    Word on the street about flex decertification effort...

    If we decertify, I doubt we will getting high-fives from other pilots as we walk through the airport.
  8. Club ORD FO

    Kenn Ricci Is Not The Problem

    Did you quit?
  9. Club ORD FO

    GulfGuy

    From your above post, please elaborate on “his idea”.
  10. Club ORD FO

    Improvements under the union contract at Flexjet

    Hmm ok. I'm not familiar with the no sim after midnight rule either. What section # is that?
  11. Club ORD FO

    Improvements under the union contract at Flexjet

    You sure about #7? The way I read it, they can airline you in, give you 10 hours of rest, and then sim. Where do you see the si glue engine raw data went away?
  13. Club ORD FO

    From the Money Hungry, Dues Extorting Thugs at the IBT 1108

    Not quite correct. To hold a leadership position you need 24 months of continuous MIGS. So if you’ve been paying since the beginning you are good, but if you just start now you can join committees but not run for leadership.
  14. Club ORD FO

    From the Money Hungry, Dues Extorting Thugs at the IBT 1108

    All this talk of lists is counter productive. The whole point of starting over with dues is to end the division in this pilot group. Calling for lists to be made up and trying to bully people into paying is going to have the opposite effect. Plus the anti folks love to use this talk of lists as...
  15. Club ORD FO

    Flex bid Gone

    Thats makes our attrition rate just over 10% per year. 1 or 2 pilots per week. Fun with calculators.
  16. Club ORD FO

    Flex bid Gone

    Er, no. We always had 7 and 8 day lines. But they were made green lines in the new bases after the buy out. Still yellow in DFW and a few others.
  17. Club ORD FO

    Flex bid Gone

    Um, the union got us the contract? so first you say we should fear flexbid going away, but then you say you want it to go away. What?
  19. Club ORD FO

    Flex bid Gone

    Flexbid is in the contract, so what are you worried about?
  20. Club ORD FO

    Flex bid Gone

    KR's schedule of choice is the make-your-own. That's what they do on the red Label. You get paid a bigger bonus iff you do 7+ day trips but a lot of pilots ignore that.
  21. Club ORD FO

    GulfGuy

    GG sounds like a (reluctant) supporter, but he seems to be under the impression that FW (and others) are trying to form an in house union. Which is incorrect. If FW wins representation he will just step down and hand everything over to management. No contract, no union, no collective bargaining...
  22. Club ORD FO

    Anti union voters at Flexjet/Options

    There is most definitely a percentage of pilots who signed a card thinking they were voting for an in-house union lead by FW. Which is most definitely not the case. You're signing that card expressing interest in NO union.
  23. Club ORD FO

    Anti union voters at Flexjet/Options

    Yes the seniority and 50/50 rules are thanks to the union and the fence agreement. If FW wins that goes away and the airplanes can be staffed however the company wants (out of seniority just like it was before the fence agreement). Are you ok with that?
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