More Mesa MGMT BS

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Has Mesa ALPA requested or considering NMB mediation?

Not yet-

 

[jonjuan]

I am not surprised , dumb and dumber runs that airline

Actually they seem pretty smart. Dumb would be those pilots who keep working under those conditions.

 

[mesaserf]

Mesa classes are packed because they are telling the new hires that they will be in the left seat in two years.

Hook, line and sinker....

 

[20sx]

If they aren't a captain, then they'll be a senior FO. Latest upgrade went fairly junior, so it's very possible to upgrade in 2 years with pilots holding out for quality of life. However, if they are holding out for the e-jet, then that will definitely skew how junior the upgrades will continue.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

Mesa has stated total pilot group will settle around 1100 pilots once all planes arrive.

Easy math - top 50% in the left seat.

Mesa has zero attrition in the capt ranks. Most guys have 15 years +. New hires will be lucky to see the left seat in 5 years

 

[20sx]

It's not easy math. It will never be 50/50. There are always FO's that choose quality of life over the upgrade. Add in longer vacation time for senior CA's, FO's waiting for a better jet with new domicile's, and all that together will give a different ratio. The latest upgrade class had an FO 65% down the list that will be upgrading.
In terms of attrition, a fair amount of FO's here are downgraded captains from the bad times. They have PIC turbine time and are marketable for leaving.
I just don't see where it will take 5 years to upgrade at Mesa.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

There is no such thing as a quick upgrade- Mesa doesn't even have one new 175 on line yet-

Let's not forget, these are UALs airframes.

Don't count your upgrade time until your in the left seat rolling down the runway.

 

[SAABaroowski]

Mesa has stated total pilot group will settle around 1100 pilots once all planes arrive.

Easy math - top 50% in the left seat.

Mesa has zero attrition in the capt ranks. Most guys have 15 years +. New hires will be lucky to see the left seat in 5 years

What kind of person stays at MESA for 15+ years? Serious question, why?

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

What kind of person stays at MESA for 15+ years? Serious question, why?

100k+ a year. Live in base. Sleep in your own bed most of the month.

 

[CLARKGRSWOLD]

What kind of person stays at MESA for 15+ years? Serious question, why?

Possibly 9/11; age 65; and that whole recession thing too.