Skywest (and ASA) pass benefits to change drastically?

[John Pennekamp]

I really don't understand the pissing and moaning about this... [edit]

...I do have a probelm IF DAL employees, family and friends fly at the same or greater priority on our own aircraft than ourselves. Prior to being bought we did have a higher priority than DAL on our aircraft.

Specifically, this is what I was referring to.

 

[wms]

I have not met a DAL pilot who thinks we should be a lower priority on our own planes. This not a jumpseat issue between pilots, it' a corporate issue between companies. That said, there will be less motivation to get non-revs on after being shafted. One of the additional benefits to DAL for taking over our ATL ops is there won't be ASA agents turning DAL employees away from ASA flights because they're bitter about the new arrangement. I personally think all that's been going on has been tied together in some way, and it's not over yet.

 

[Occam's Razor]

I agree fins, but the Delta pilots have influenced this pass situation, and I don't feel like counting kids to get Delta people on if they think they "own" me... If they get the same deal on us as we get on them, then there is no problem. However if they get a better deal on us than we get on them, then there will be problems... I for one am tired of being played between DAL, DALPA, and ALPA....

Have faith, brother! I know sometimes you feel the whole World is against you, but in reality, there are a couple of smaller countries that are mostly neutral.

(I think it's cuz they don't have internet service yet...)

 

[ohplease!]

I have not met a DAL pilot who thinks we should be a lower priority on our own planes. This not a jumpseat issue between pilots, it' a corporate issue between companies. That said, there will be less motivation to get non-revs on after being shafted. One of the additional benefits to DAL for taking over our ATL ops is there won't be ASA agents turning DAL employees away from ASA flights because they're bitter about the new arrangement. I personally think all that's been going on has been tied together in some way, and it's not over yet.

I've decided, its naiveté. You really think their going to say "oh yeah, I think you ASA/whoever guys are a piece of sh!t. No way you should be able to fly in front of us. Piss on you" to your face? NOT. They're arrogant not brave.

I don't commute and rarely non-rev. I've gone out of my way for the very last time for a DAL crew if all these changes do take place. I do happen to believe they are partly (if not totally) behind this alleged effort to change our benefits. They are arrogant to the extreme and always have been. They say piss on me, I say piss on them.

 

[Morning Wood]

I've decided, its naiveté. You really think their going to say "oh yeah, I think you ASA/whoever guys are a piece of sh!t. No way you should be able to fly in front of us. Piss on you" to your face? NOT. They're arrogant not brave.

I don't commute and rarely non-rev. I've gone out of my way for the very last time for a DAL crew if all these changes do take place. I do happen to believe they are partly (if not totally) behind this alleged effort to change our benefits. They are arrogant to the extreme and always have been. They say piss on me, I say piss on them.

Yeah, but how are you or any other pilot going to know if the NRSA is a Delta pilot, Delta ramp agent, or someone on a pass from American? I doubt you're going to take the time on each flight to go check the STBY list and see who might be trying to get on your airplane.

 

[ohplease!]

Yeah, but how are you or any other pilot going to know if the NRSA is a Delta pilot, Delta ramp agent, or someone on a pass from American? I doubt you're going to take the time on each flight to go check the STBY list and see who might be trying to get on your airplane.

strictly speaking about pilot/jumpseat otherwise i don't care

 

[Grey Ghost]

This one is from the DeltaNet massage board, discuss:

"I am a SkyWest employee in SLC, and there is a lot of changes in the works right now in regards to out travel benefits. Our representatives at out corporate headquarters in SGU have informed us that we will soon be paying to fly NRSA on Delta equipment, and EXPECT it to take effect very soon. Apparently they have been in negotiations with Delta for a couple of years now, and what has been agreed upon is that SkyWest employees will only be allowed to fly for free on our OWN equipment. If we want to fly on Delta equipment, we will have to pay some type of service charge. However, Delta employees will continue to enjoy free travel on our equipment, as well as your buddy passers. We as SkyWest employees are outraged by this! Our biggest complaint is that we just keep getting the shaft when it comes to our NRSA travel. Our buddy passers already are not allowed anywhere near a Delta aircraft, only our own. The stupid thing is that Delta buddy passers are allowed on our aircrafts. Where is the equality? Are we not taking care of the SAME passengers and loading the SAME bags that you as Delta agents are taking care of? Are we not all ultimately part of the same team? Our parents are already paying this service charge to fly on Delta equipment, and we will have an incredible amount of turnover if we as the employee must begin to pay also. We are not paid NEARLY as much as you Delta agents are, and are doing the same flipping job, now we must pay for our benefits also! We do not believe this should take place, especially when we are already at a lower priority than Delta employees and their families on your flights, we are not bumping you off your own flights, so just let us on after you all and dont charge us! The reality is that most of the employees here in SLC for SkyWest are ONLY here for the flight benefits. Our wages are lower than most fast food restaurants, and free travel is all that we care about. If this new change takes place, many are ready to leave, and that will cause HUGE problems for a compnay that already has HUGE problems with attrition. The customer service we give YOUR passengers will only decline, and all will be effected by this change. Keep NRSA benefits equal for all of us is our cry! We do not mind flying on a lower priority, just let it be free! Delta...if you are listening, please help!"

You are absolutely right! Travel is one of the biggest reasons we get into this occupation. Now, they are making it to the point where it is not worth all the hassel that we go through on a daily basis! I guess I knew what I was getting into when I signed up fora Delta and United feeder! thanks Jerry, for sticking it to us again!!!!!

 

[John Pennekamp]

strictly speaking about pilot/jumpseat otherwise i don't care

I on the other hand, feel we should find out how many revenue passengers are booked, and then realize we're weight limited to that number of pax and their bags. No non-revs. The lion share of our non-revs are Delta employees.

"You can only have too much fuel if you're on fire". Safety first.

 

[ohplease!]

I on the other hand, feel we should find out how many revenue passengers are booked, and then realize we're weight limited to that number of pax and their bags. No non-revs. The lion share of our non-revs are Delta employees.

"You can only have too much fuel if you're on fire". Safety first.

You make me proud JP! good idea.

 

[DrunkIrishman]

Meanwhile...

Your "weight restriction" prevents my family from getting to their destination because those Delta non-revs role over to the next flight on Delta and bump them leaving no seats. So I guess I should say thanks.